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Eric Pearson

Re: Omegamon for DB2
(in response to william.poston@DB.COM)
Cannot compare it with the CA product but....
We are very happy with it.
It compares favorably with the BMC competitor
and is *way* easier to use than the old B&B product.

Ease of use of the Candle product is great unless
you use the CUA interface which is as hostile as most
other CUA interfaces. Information is really accessable.
Application trace is very handy.
Historical component is excellent.
Only real weakness is that it cannot be configured
to send alerts to the console. Thus you cannot easily
interface it with automated operations products which
are console-driven. Other than that, it is a
superb product.

Oh.... and as a vendor, Candle is
*very* responsive and *very* easy to deal with.

Regards,
eric pearson
NS ITO Database Support


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Has any one used omegamon for DB2? How is it? How does it compare with CA
Insight?


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Re: Omegamon for DB2
(in response to Eric Pearson)
Eric Pearson do you know if it runs on DB2 Version 7


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Cannot compare it with the CA product but....
We are very happy with it.
It compares favorably with the BMC competitor
and is *way* easier to use than the old B&B product.

Ease of use of the Candle product is great unless
you use the CUA interface which is as hostile as most
other CUA interfaces. Information is really accessable.
Application trace is very handy.
Historical component is excellent.
Only real weakness is that it cannot be configured
to send alerts to the console. Thus you cannot easily
interface it with automated operations products which
are console-driven. Other than that, it is a
superb product.

Oh.... and as a vendor, Candle is
*very* responsive and *very* easy to deal with.

Regards,
eric pearson
NS ITO Database Support


-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 2:10 PM
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Subject: Re: Omegamon for DB2


Has any one used omegamon for DB2? How is it? How does it compare with CA
Insight?


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Cathy Taddei

Re: Omegamon for DB2
(in response to william.poston@DB.COM)
Omegamon for DB2 meshes extremely well with AF/Operator, also from Candle.
You can set X-type traps in AF/Oper for just about any threshold in
Omegamon, I've done this at another shop that had both products. I've never
used Insight, so I don't know what it's strengths are, but I have used
Activity Monitor and Mainview and I greatly prefer Omegamon.

Cathy Taddei

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Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 11:38 AM
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Subject: Re: Omegamon for DB2


Cannot compare it with the CA product but....
We are very happy with it.
It compares favorably with the BMC competitor
and is *way* easier to use than the old B&B product.

Ease of use of the Candle product is great unless
you use the CUA interface which is as hostile as most
other CUA interfaces. Information is really accessable.
Application trace is very handy.
Historical component is excellent.
Only real weakness is that it cannot be configured
to send alerts to the console. Thus you cannot easily
interface it with automated operations products which
are console-driven. Other than that, it is a
superb product.

Oh.... and as a vendor, Candle is
*very* responsive and *very* easy to deal with.

Regards,
eric pearson
NS ITO Database Support


-----Original Message-----
From: William Poston [mailto:[login to unmask email]
Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 2:10 PM
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Subject: Re: Omegamon for DB2


Has any one used omegamon for DB2? How is it? How does it compare with CA
Insight?


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Eric Pearson

Re: Omegamon for DB2
(in response to Cathy Taddei)
We use Omeagamon/Db2 on V7. Omegamon must be at version V510 or higher.
Ours is V510.C


Regards,
eric pearson
NS ITO Database Support


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Eric Pearson do you know if it runs on DB2 Version 7


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Cannot compare it with the CA product but....
We are very happy with it.
It compares favorably with the BMC competitor
and is *way* easier to use than the old B&B product.

Ease of use of the Candle product is great unless
you use the CUA interface which is as hostile as most
other CUA interfaces. Information is really accessable.
Application trace is very handy.
Historical component is excellent.
Only real weakness is that it cannot be configured
to send alerts to the console. Thus you cannot easily
interface it with automated operations products which
are console-driven. Other than that, it is a
superb product.

Oh.... and as a vendor, Candle is
*very* responsive and *very* easy to deal with.

Regards,
eric pearson
NS ITO Database Support


-----Original Message-----
From: William Poston [mailto:[login to unmask email]
Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 2:10 PM
To: [login to unmask email]
Subject: Re: Omegamon for DB2


Has any one used omegamon for DB2? How is it? How does it compare with CA
Insight?


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Eric Pearson

Re: Omegamon for DB2
(in response to Eric Pearson)
Yes,I wish we had AF/Operator.
Alas, we have the AO package from CA.
Not my choice or decision.


Regards,
eric pearson

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From: Taddei, Cathy [mailto:[login to unmask email]
Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 3:50 PM
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Omegamon for DB2 meshes extremely well with AF/Operator, also from Candle.
You can set X-type traps in AF/Oper for just about any threshold in
Omegamon, I've done this at another shop that had both products. I've never
used Insight, so I don't know what it's strengths are, but I have used
Activity Monitor and Mainview and I greatly prefer Omegamon.

Cathy Taddei

-----Original Message-----
From: Pearson, Eric L, [ mailto:[login to unmask email]
<mailto:[login to unmask email]> ]
Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 11:38 AM
To: [login to unmask email]
Subject: Re: Omegamon for DB2


Cannot compare it with the CA product but....
We are very happy with it.
It compares favorably with the BMC competitor
and is *way* easier to use than the old B&B product.

Ease of use of the Candle product is great unless
you use the CUA interface which is as hostile as most
other CUA interfaces. Information is really accessable.
Application trace is very handy.
Historical component is excellent.
Only real weakness is that it cannot be configured
to send alerts to the console. Thus you cannot easily
interface it with automated operations products which
are console-driven. Other than that, it is a
superb product.

Oh.... and as a vendor, Candle is
*very* responsive and *very* easy to deal with.

Regards,
eric pearson
NS ITO Database Support


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Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 2:10 PM
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Subject: Re: Omegamon for DB2


Has any one used omegamon for DB2? How is it? How does it compare with CA
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Isaac Yassin

Re: Omegamon for DB2
(in response to Eric Pearson)
Hi,
I'm using both OMEGAMON & INSIGHT (different places).
OM:
The CUA consumes more resources than the CLASSIC interface and
is less responsive.
The classic can be tailored a little bit, the CUA can not be tailored.
If you use VSAM files as target you can have online history of threads, if you send it
to DB2 tables directly - you can't have online history.
Object analysis is good, but you can't keep history of it.
Application trace is good as well but you may either use the regular trace
or use full trace .
Building your own online reports is very problematic.
IN:
The interface is very easy and intuitive.
Can be tailored as much as you like (REXX-like language) -
you may change existing reports or write your own.
The level of tracing is for you to decide even for the full trace.
Many useful reports about I/O problems (that's how I nailed EMC box problems).

It takes some time to do the mental switch from one to another :-) as the interface is
so different.


Isaac Yassin
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Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 11:06 PM
Subject: Re: Omegamon for DB2


> We use Omeagamon/Db2 on V7. Omegamon must be at version V510 or higher.
> Ours is V510.C
>
>
> Regards,
> eric pearson
> NS ITO Database Support
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: William Poston [mailto:[login to unmask email]
> Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 3:32 PM
> To: [login to unmask email]
> Subject: Re: Omegamon for DB2
>
>
> Eric Pearson do you know if it runs on DB2 Version 7
>
>
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> From: "Pearson, Eric L," <[login to unmask email]>@RYCI.COM> on 12/14/2001
> 02:38 PM EST
>
> Please respond to DB2 Data Base Discussion List <[login to unmask email]>
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> To: [login to unmask email]
> cc:
> Subject: Re: Omegamon for DB2
>
>
> Cannot compare it with the CA product but....
> We are very happy with it.
> It compares favorably with the BMC competitor
> and is *way* easier to use than the old B&B product.
>
> Ease of use of the Candle product is great unless
> you use the CUA interface which is as hostile as most
> other CUA interfaces. Information is really accessable.
> Application trace is very handy.
> Historical component is excellent.
> Only real weakness is that it cannot be configured
> to send alerts to the console. Thus you cannot easily
> interface it with automated operations products which
> are console-driven. Other than that, it is a
> superb product.
>
> Oh.... and as a vendor, Candle is
> *very* responsive and *very* easy to deal with.
>
> Regards,
> eric pearson
> NS ITO Database Support
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: William Poston [mailto:[login to unmask email]
> Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 2:10 PM
> To: [login to unmask email]
> Subject: Re: Omegamon for DB2
>
>
> Has any one used omegamon for DB2? How is it? How does it compare with CA
> Insight?
>
>
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Aurora Dell'Anno

Re: Omegamon for DB2
(in response to Isaac Yassin)
Hi William,

as usual I jump on the bandwagon a bit late, sorry but I had no access to
my mail last Friday.

Thanks Cathy and Eric for your input, and I'll add a "little" more if I
may:

The OMEGAMON Family is made up of the following:
OMEGAMON II for MVS
OMEGAMON II for CICS
OMEGAMON II for IMS
OMEGAMON II for DB2
OMEGAMON II for SMS
OMEGAMON II for VTAM
Plus monitoring agents for MQSeries, and many distributed platforms

Like other vendors, also our Omegamon's provided day-one support in its
performance and availability solutions for IBM's z/OS and OS/390, the
operating systems for the new eServer zSeries 900 and the S/390. In
addition, Candle offered day-one solution support for IBM's new CICS
Transaction Server for z/OS Version 2 (CICS TS V2) and DB2 Universal
Database for OS/390 and z/OS, Version 7 (the latter with Omegamon II for
DB2 version 510, as Eric rightly mentioned).

Day-one support for DB2 Universal Database Server for OS/390 and z/OS,
Version 7 pertains to OMEGAMON II for DB2 and CCC for DB2plex.

The main features of Omegamon II for DB2 are:
Real-time monitoring of DB2 applications
View of Thread activity, SQL, locking, thread elapsed times
Application Trace Facility (ATF)
Real-time monitoring of DB2 subsystems
Virtual pools, EDM pool, locks, logging, traces
Object analysis facility (I/O analysis)
Near-term history
Application and subsystem history
Historical report interface
Batch and ISPF interface
CUA and Classic interface
OMEGAVIEW integration

This is available via the so-called "Classic" interface, and also via the
more user-friendly Common User Access (CUA), which is intuitive and easy
to use, with a PC-like presentation where you would "Follow the yellow (or
red) brick road" to immediately analyse problems.

Also, the new OMEGAMON XE for DB2 Universal Database v100, features
extensive performance data for UDB on AIX, NT/Win 2000, and Sun/Solaris
including:
System-wide Critical Information
Application Activity
Database Performance
Locking Conflicts
Buffer Pool Utilization
CandleNet Portal, a flexible, easy-to-use interface
Sophisticated alerts with localized automation

As usual, if you wish to have some more in-depth info from our side (the
vendors), please do not hesitate to contact me offline, or alternatively
contact your local friendly Candle rep. for a chat, a demo and whatever...

HTH and a very merry Festive Season to yourself and to all the other
listers who were good enough to read this through :-)

Ciao!

Aurora Emanuela Dell'Anno
Systems Engineer
Candle Service Ltd.

Office: +49 (0) 89 54554 189
Mobile: +49 (0) 171 674 6930
+44 (0) 7881 818 867
Fax: +49 (0) 89 54554 119
email: [login to unmask email]

1 Archipelago
Lyon Way
Frimley Camberley
Surrey GU16 7ER
UK


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Paul Ealey

Re: Omegamon for DB2
(in response to Aurora Dell'Anno)
From an application performance monitoring and reporting view point Insight
is very tailorable whereas Omegamon isn't at all tailorable .For batch
summary reporting Insight shows average and maximum times, Omegamon only
shows average so you don't see blips. From the people I've spoken to the
consensus seems to be Omegamon for sys progs, Insight for DBAs.

Hope this helps.


-----Original Message-----
From: Aurora Dell'Anno [mailto:[login to unmask email]
Sent: 17 December 2001 11:07
To: [login to unmask email]
Subject: Re: Omegamon for DB2


Hi William,

as usual I jump on the bandwagon a bit late, sorry but I had no access to
my mail last Friday.

Thanks Cathy and Eric for your input, and I'll add a "little" more if I
may:

The OMEGAMON Family is made up of the following:
OMEGAMON II for MVS
OMEGAMON II for CICS
OMEGAMON II for IMS
OMEGAMON II for DB2
OMEGAMON II for SMS
OMEGAMON II for VTAM
Plus monitoring agents for MQSeries, and many distributed platforms

Like other vendors, also our Omegamon's provided day-one support in its
performance and availability solutions for IBM's z/OS and OS/390, the
operating systems for the new eServer zSeries 900 and the S/390. In
addition, Candle offered day-one solution support for IBM's new CICS
Transaction Server for z/OS Version 2 (CICS TS V2) and DB2 Universal
Database for OS/390 and z/OS, Version 7 (the latter with Omegamon II for
DB2 version 510, as Eric rightly mentioned).

Day-one support for DB2 Universal Database Server for OS/390 and z/OS,
Version 7 pertains to OMEGAMON II for DB2 and CCC for DB2plex.

The main features of Omegamon II for DB2 are:
Real-time monitoring of DB2 applications
View of Thread activity, SQL, locking, thread elapsed times
Application Trace Facility (ATF)
Real-time monitoring of DB2 subsystems
Virtual pools, EDM pool, locks, logging, traces
Object analysis facility (I/O analysis)
Near-term history
Application and subsystem history
Historical report interface
Batch and ISPF interface
CUA and Classic interface
OMEGAVIEW integration

This is available via the so-called "Classic" interface, and also via the
more user-friendly Common User Access (CUA), which is intuitive and easy
to use, with a PC-like presentation where you would "Follow the yellow (or
red) brick road" to immediately analyse problems.

Also, the new OMEGAMON XE for DB2 Universal Database v100, features
extensive performance data for UDB on AIX, NT/Win 2000, and Sun/Solaris
including:
System-wide Critical Information
Application Activity
Database Performance
Locking Conflicts
Buffer Pool Utilization
CandleNet Portal, a flexible, easy-to-use interface
Sophisticated alerts with localized automation

As usual, if you wish to have some more in-depth info from our side (the
vendors), please do not hesitate to contact me offline, or alternatively
contact your local friendly Candle rep. for a chat, a demo and whatever...

HTH and a very merry Festive Season to yourself and to all the other
listers who were good enough to read this through :-)

Ciao!

Aurora Emanuela Dell'Anno
Systems Engineer
Candle Service Ltd.

Office: +49 (0) 89 54554 189
Mobile: +49 (0) 171 674 6930
+44 (0) 7881 818 867
Fax: +49 (0) 89 54554 119
email: [login to unmask email]

1 Archipelago
Lyon Way
Frimley Camberley
Surrey GU16 7ER
UK


* std. disclaimer * MY OPINIONS ARE MY OWN AND NOT THOSE OF MY EMPLOYER


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electrons were seriously inconvenienced :-)






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Mike Holmans

Re: Omegamon for DB2
(in response to Paul Ealey)
>>From: Aurora Dell'Anno [mailto:[login to unmask email]
>>Sent: Monday, December 17, 2001 11:07 AM
>>To: [login to unmask email]
>>Subject: Re: [DB2-L] Omegamon for DB2
>>
>>
>>
>>This is available via the so-called "Classic" interface, and
>>also via the
>>more user-friendly Common User Access (CUA), which is
>>intuitive and easy
>>to use, with a PC-like presentation where you would "Follow
>>the yellow (or
>>red) brick road" to immediately analyse problems.
>>

In which alternative reality is the CUA interface considered in any way
user-friendly, and where is the wormhole which would allow us to get to that
reality?


Mike Holmans
Database Consultant
BT Affinitis Computing Partners
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reflect BT's view



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Re: Omegamon for DB2
(in response to Mike Holmans)
I resisted the temptation to comment when I read Aurora's note but ...

I believe the alternate reality you are looking for is called "Marketing
Paradise". In that universe, all promises made by sales reps automatically
come true. You know, like:

"... it has full, user friendly documentation ..." ,
"... our product is cheaper than the competition's ..."
"... our product is guaranteed bug free ..."
"... the patch will solve all of your problems ..."
" ... all MicroSmurf products are totally secure from hacking ..." <BG>
" ... MicroSmurf is not a monopoly ..."
"... MicroSmurf would never use unfair business practices to undermine even
the smallest 'competitor' "

and is also where when you tell your creditors "... the check is in the
mail ...", it really is <g>.

Sorry Aurora, these personal opinions are NOT aimed specifically at your
company (I've never even had a chance to look at your product). I was
ready to run screaming from the room after just 30 seconds of attempting to
use the CUA version of ISPF. So far, I have found most/all attempts to
make a 3270 character based session "Windoze" / mouse friendly an exercise
in futitilty.






[login to unmask email]@RYCI.COM> on 2001/12/17 08:19:57 AM
Subject: Re: Omegamon for DB2

>>From: Aurora Dell'Anno [mailto:[login to unmask email]
>>Sent: Monday, December 17, 2001 11:07 AM
>>To: [login to unmask email]
>>Subject: Re: [DB2-L] Omegamon for DB2
>>
>>This is available via the so-called "Classic" interface, and
>>also via the
>>more user-friendly Common User Access (CUA), which is
>>intuitive and easy
>>to use, with a PC-like presentation where you would "Follow
>>the yellow (or
>>red) brick road" to immediately analyse problems.
>>

In which alternative reality is the CUA interface considered in any way
user-friendly, and where is the wormhole which would allow us to get to
that
reality?


Mike Holmans
Database Consultant
BT Affinitis Computing Partners
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This post is solely the opinion of its author and does not necessarily
reflect BT's view



Martin Nicholson

Re: Omegamon for DB2
(in response to Rohn.Solecki@MTS.MB.CA)
I haven't used Insight for over 10 years, so I cannot comment.

We migrated from TMON to Omegamon and back to TMON (over 8 years). We
received complaints after each migration. No product will offer everything
you need perfectly.

Candle's Same day support: This is somewhat true. When we upgraded,
Omegamon supported the new releases, but we had to wait too long (in our
opinion) for new feature support.

Candle's application trace facility is the best I have seen. Unfortunately,
I only need to use that functionality once or twice a year.

Candle's pool snapshots are a really cool and helpful feature.

Candle's CUA feature should be outlawed as cruel and unusual punishment.
The "classic" interface is very useable.

Candle consumed slightly more CPU than TMON.

Candles History database is very good. Better than TMON's.

Online analysis is good, but it is a problem that history is not kept. TMON
has the same information in its online history.


We switched back from Candle to TMON because we felt Candle doesn't
adequately help us resolve problems that happened "15 minutes" ago.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Aurora Dell'Anno [SMTP:[login to unmask email]
> Sent: Monday, December 17, 2001 5:07 AM
> To: [login to unmask email]
> Subject: Re: Omegamon for DB2
>
> Hi William,
>
> as usual I jump on the bandwagon a bit late, sorry but I had no access to
> my mail last Friday.
>
> Thanks Cathy and Eric for your input, and I'll add a "little" more if I
> may:
>
> The OMEGAMON Family is made up of the following:
> OMEGAMON II for MVS
> OMEGAMON II for CICS
> OMEGAMON II for IMS
> OMEGAMON II for DB2
> OMEGAMON II for SMS
> OMEGAMON II for VTAM
> Plus monitoring agents for MQSeries, and many distributed platforms
>
> Like other vendors, also our Omegamon's provided day-one support in its
> performance and availability solutions for IBM's z/OS and OS/390, the
> operating systems for the new eServer zSeries 900 and the S/390. In
> addition, Candle offered day-one solution support for IBM's new CICS
> Transaction Server for z/OS Version 2 (CICS TS V2) and DB2 Universal
> Database for OS/390 and z/OS, Version 7 (the latter with Omegamon II for
> DB2 version 510, as Eric rightly mentioned).
>
> Day-one support for DB2 Universal Database Server for OS/390 and z/OS,
> Version 7 pertains to OMEGAMON II for DB2 and CCC for DB2plex.
>
> The main features of Omegamon II for DB2 are:
> Real-time monitoring of DB2 applications
> View of Thread activity, SQL, locking, thread elapsed times
> Application Trace Facility (ATF)
> Real-time monitoring of DB2 subsystems
> Virtual pools, EDM pool, locks, logging, traces
> Object analysis facility (I/O analysis)
> Near-term history
> Application and subsystem history
> Historical report interface
> Batch and ISPF interface
> CUA and Classic interface
> OMEGAVIEW integration
>
> This is available via the so-called "Classic" interface, and also via the
> more user-friendly Common User Access (CUA), which is intuitive and easy
> to use, with a PC-like presentation where you would "Follow the yellow
> (or
> red) brick road" to immediately analyse problems.
>
> Also, the new OMEGAMON XE for DB2 Universal Database v100, features
> extensive performance data for UDB on AIX, NT/Win 2000, and Sun/Solaris
> including:
> System-wide Critical Information
> Application Activity
> Database Performance
> Locking Conflicts
> Buffer Pool Utilization
> CandleNet Portal, a flexible, easy-to-use interface
> Sophisticated alerts with localized automation
>
> As usual, if you wish to have some more in-depth info from our side (the
> vendors), please do not hesitate to contact me offline, or alternatively
> contact your local friendly Candle rep. for a chat, a demo and whatever...
>
> HTH and a very merry Festive Season to yourself and to all the other
> listers who were good enough to read this through :-)
>
> Ciao!
>
> Aurora Emanuela Dell'Anno
> Systems Engineer
> Candle Service Ltd.
>
> Office: +49 (0) 89 54554 189
> Mobile: +49 (0) 171 674 6930
> +44 (0) 7881 818 867
> Fax: +49 (0) 89 54554 119
> email: [login to unmask email]
>
> 1 Archipelago
> Lyon Way
> Frimley Camberley
> Surrey GU16 7ER
> UK
>
>
> * std. disclaimer * MY OPINIONS ARE MY OWN AND NOT THOSE OF MY EMPLOYER
>
>
> no trees were killed in sending this message. However, a large number of
> electrons were seriously inconvenienced :-)
>
>
>
>
>
>
> William
> Poston To: [login to unmask email]
> <william.post cc: (bcc: Aurora E
> DellAnno/CAM/Candle)
> [login to unmask email]> Subject: Re: Omegamon for DB2
>
> 14/12/2001
> 19:09
> Please
> respond to
> DB2 Data Base
> Discussion
> List
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Has any one used omegamon for DB2? How is it? How does it compare with CA
> Insight?
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Eric Pearson

Re: Omegamon for DB2
(in response to Martin Nicholson)
2ND the motion on the CUA.
I *love* the Omegamon line of products,
but:
OMEGAMON CUA IS THE MOST USER-HOSTILE
SOFTWARE INTERFACE ON EARTH!

The products themselves are superb.

Regards,
eric pearson
NS ITO Database Support


-----Original Message-----
From: Nicholson, Martin [mailto:[login to unmask email]
Sent: Monday, December 17, 2001 12:24 PM
To: [login to unmask email]
Subject: Re: Omegamon for DB2


I haven't used Insight for over 10 years, so I cannot comment.

We migrated from TMON to Omegamon and back to TMON (over 8 years). We
received complaints after each migration. No product will offer everything
you need perfectly.

Candle's Same day support: This is somewhat true. When we upgraded,
Omegamon supported the new releases, but we had to wait too long (in our
opinion) for new feature support.

Candle's application trace facility is the best I have seen. Unfortunately,
I only need to use that functionality once or twice a year.

Candle's pool snapshots are a really cool and helpful feature.

Candle's CUA feature should be outlawed as cruel and unusual punishment.
The "classic" interface is very useable.

Candle consumed slightly more CPU than TMON.

Candles History database is very good. Better than TMON's.

Online analysis is good, but it is a problem that history is not kept. TMON
has the same information in its online history.


We switched back from Candle to TMON because we felt Candle doesn't
adequately help us resolve problems that happened "15 minutes" ago.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Aurora Dell'Anno [SMTP:[login to unmask email]
> Sent: Monday, December 17, 2001 5:07 AM
> To: [login to unmask email]
> Subject: Re: Omegamon for DB2
>
> Hi William,
>
> as usual I jump on the bandwagon a bit late, sorry but I had no access to
> my mail last Friday.
>
> Thanks Cathy and Eric for your input, and I'll add a "little" more if I
> may:
>
> The OMEGAMON Family is made up of the following:
> OMEGAMON II for MVS
> OMEGAMON II for CICS
> OMEGAMON II for IMS
> OMEGAMON II for DB2
> OMEGAMON II for SMS
> OMEGAMON II for VTAM
> Plus monitoring agents for MQSeries, and many distributed platforms
>
> Like other vendors, also our Omegamon's provided day-one support in its
> performance and availability solutions for IBM's z/OS and OS/390, the
> operating systems for the new eServer zSeries 900 and the S/390. In
> addition, Candle offered day-one solution support for IBM's new CICS
> Transaction Server for z/OS Version 2 (CICS TS V2) and DB2 Universal
> Database for OS/390 and z/OS, Version 7 (the latter with Omegamon II for
> DB2 version 510, as Eric rightly mentioned).
>
> Day-one support for DB2 Universal Database Server for OS/390 and z/OS,
> Version 7 pertains to OMEGAMON II for DB2 and CCC for DB2plex.
>
> The main features of Omegamon II for DB2 are:
> Real-time monitoring of DB2 applications
> View of Thread activity, SQL, locking, thread elapsed times
> Application Trace Facility (ATF)
> Real-time monitoring of DB2 subsystems
> Virtual pools, EDM pool, locks, logging, traces
> Object analysis facility (I/O analysis)
> Near-term history
> Application and subsystem history
> Historical report interface
> Batch and ISPF interface
> CUA and Classic interface
> OMEGAVIEW integration
>
> This is available via the so-called "Classic" interface, and also via the
> more user-friendly Common User Access (CUA), which is intuitive and easy
> to use, with a PC-like presentation where you would "Follow the yellow
> (or
> red) brick road" to immediately analyse problems.
>
> Also, the new OMEGAMON XE for DB2 Universal Database v100, features
> extensive performance data for UDB on AIX, NT/Win 2000, and Sun/Solaris
> including:
> System-wide Critical Information
> Application Activity
> Database Performance
> Locking Conflicts
> Buffer Pool Utilization
> CandleNet Portal, a flexible, easy-to-use interface
> Sophisticated alerts with localized automation
>
> As usual, if you wish to have some more in-depth info from our side (the
> vendors), please do not hesitate to contact me offline, or alternatively
> contact your local friendly Candle rep. for a chat, a demo and whatever...
>
> HTH and a very merry Festive Season to yourself and to all the other
> listers who were good enough to read this through :-)
>
> Ciao!
>
> Aurora Emanuela Dell'Anno
> Systems Engineer
> Candle Service Ltd.
>
> Office: +49 (0) 89 54554 189
> Mobile: +49 (0) 171 674 6930
> +44 (0) 7881 818 867
> Fax: +49 (0) 89 54554 119
> email: [login to unmask email]
>
> 1 Archipelago
> Lyon Way
> Frimley Camberley
> Surrey GU16 7ER
> UK
>
>
> * std. disclaimer * MY OPINIONS ARE MY OWN AND NOT THOSE OF MY EMPLOYER
>
>
> no trees were killed in sending this message. However, a large number of
> electrons were seriously inconvenienced :-)
>
>
>
>
>
>
> William
> Poston To: [login to unmask email]
> <william.post cc: (bcc: Aurora E
> DellAnno/CAM/Candle)
> [login to unmask email]> Subject: Re: Omegamon for DB2
>
> 14/12/2001
> 19:09
> Please
> respond to
> DB2 Data Base
> Discussion
> List
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Has any one used omegamon for DB2? How is it? How does it compare with CA
> Insight?
>
>
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> e-mail is strictly forbidden.
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>
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>
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>








Dave Shapiro

Re: Omegamon for DB2
(in response to Eric Pearson)
William,

Can't compare Omegamon with Insight, but CAN with BMC's Mainview.

Check the archives for more detail.

HTH
Dave


-----Original Message-----
From: William Poston [mailto:[login to unmask email]
Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 1:10 PM
To: [login to unmask email]
Subject: Re: Omegamon for DB2


Has any one used omegamon for DB2? How is it? How does it compare with CA Insight?


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