DSN1COPY -- for replication

Nam Wu

DSN1COPY -- for replication
Hello,

I am a 390 newbie and I need some help with the DSN1COPY utility. What I
want to do is to replicate the objects and data from one database into
several other databases. Does anybody out there have a manual they can
share, or a link that they can direct me to, or share about the problems
you ran into?

I just want to know where to start: do I need to select the OBIDs first?
how do I account for the 500 OBIDs limit? do I need to find all the
datasets that correlate to the tablespaces that I want to move first? how
do I know which dataset I need? Or if you have a completely different
approach, I'll welcome any suggestions you have. (I'm eager to learn.)

Thanks in advance!!!

Nam

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Harold Lee

Re: DSN1COPY -- for replication
(in response to Nam Wu)
I built some SQL and REXX to build the DSN1COPY JCL for me. I use one SQL
routine too extract the source information, one SQL routine to extract the
target information and a REXX routine to read the extracted data and build
the DSN1COPY JCL. If you have multiple tables per tablespace this won't
work without modification on your part. If you are interested let me know
and I'll send what I have to you and you can do with it what you will. It
sets up one step per table. The table names must be the same in the target
environment as they are in the source. I'm, unfortunately, still running on
v5 with no prospects of moving to a new release so if you're on a later
release you may need to modify the routines.

By the way if you have any job openings for a DB2 DBA/Systems Programmer
please let me know because all of us on the mainframe are being phased out
because our CIO has chosen to move to Microsoft 2000 and MS SQL Server 2003
and not train any of us that work on the mainframe. My job search so far
has produced very few interviews and no job offers. The jobless recovery
sure sucks.

Duane

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Hello,

I am a 390 newbie and I need some help with the DSN1COPY utility. What I
want to do is to replicate the objects and data from one database into
several other databases. Does anybody out there have a manual they can
share, or a link that they can direct me to, or share about the problems you
ran into?

I just want to know where to start: do I need to select the OBIDs first?
how do I account for the 500 OBIDs limit? do I need to find all the
datasets that correlate to the tablespaces that I want to move first? how
do I know which dataset I need? Or if you have a completely different
approach, I'll welcome any suggestions you have. (I'm eager to learn.)

Thanks in advance!!!

Nam
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Don Weigend

Re: DSN1COPY -- for replication
(in response to Harold Lee)
Sorry to hear about what your CIO is doing. Same thing is happening at
my company. I sincerely wish you luck with the job search.



Don Weigend

DB2 OS/390 Sysprog

IBM Certified Solutions Expert - DB2 V7 Database Administration OS/390

West Bend Mutual Insurance Company



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Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2003 7:01 PM
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Subject: Re: DSN1COPY -- for replication



I built some SQL and REXX to build the DSN1COPY JCL for me. I use one
SQL routine too extract the source information, one SQL routine to
extract the target information and a REXX routine to read the extracted
data and build the DSN1COPY JCL. If you have multiple tables per
tablespace this won't work without modification on your part. If you
are interested let me know and I'll send what I have to you and you can
do with it what you will. It sets up one step per table. The table
names must be the same in the target environment as they are in the
source. I'm, unfortunately, still running on v5 with no prospects of
moving to a new release so if you're on a later release you may need to
modify the routines.



By the way if you have any job openings for a DB2 DBA/Systems Programmer
please let me know because all of us on the mainframe are being phased
out because our CIO has chosen to move to Microsoft 2000 and MS SQL
Server 2003 and not train any of us that work on the mainframe. My job
search so far has produced very few interviews and no job offers. The
jobless recovery sure sucks.



Duane

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Stephen Vagnier

Re: DSN1COPY -- for replication
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Duane,
please contact me offline about job opportunities..


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Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2003 7:01 PM
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Subject: Re: DSN1COPY -- for replication

I built some SQL and REXX to build the DSN1COPY JCL for me. I use one SQL
routine too extract the source information, one SQL routine to extract the
target information and a REXX routine to read the extracted data and build
the DSN1COPY JCL. If you have multiple tables per tablespace this won't
work without modification on your part. If you are interested let me know
and I'll send what I have to you and you can do with it what you will. It
sets up one step per table. The table names must be the same in the target
environment as they are in the source. I'm, unfortunately, still running
on v5 with no prospects of moving to a new release so if you're on a later
release you may need to modify the routines.

By the way if you have any job openings for a DB2 DBA/Systems Programmer
please let me know because all of us on the mainframe are being phased out
because our CIO has chosen to move to Microsoft 2000 and MS SQL Server 2003
and not train any of us that work on the mainframe. My job search so far
has produced very few interviews and no job offers. The jobless recovery
sure sucks.

Duane




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cliff boley

Re: DSN1COPY -- for replication
(in response to Stephen Vagnier)
Man how can I get one of those CIO jobs, they seem pretty bullet proof from
changes in technology.
Would my 20 years as a real programmer handicap me?
cliff:-o

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From: Duane Lee - EGOVX [mailto:[login to unmask email]
Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2003 5:01 PM
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Subject: Re: DSN1COPY -- for replication


I built some SQL and REXX to build the DSN1COPY JCL for me. I use one SQL
routine too extract the source information, one SQL routine to extract the
target information and a REXX routine to read the extracted data and build
the DSN1COPY JCL. If you have multiple tables per tablespace this won't
work without modification on your part. If you are interested let me know
and I'll send what I have to you and you can do with it what you will. It
sets up one step per table. The table names must be the same in the target
environment as they are in the source. I'm, unfortunately, still running on
v5 with no prospects of moving to a new release so if you're on a later
release you may need to modify the routines.

By the way if you have any job openings for a DB2 DBA/Systems Programmer
please let me know because all of us on the mainframe are being phased out
because our CIO has chosen to move to Microsoft 2000 and MS SQL Server 2003
and not train any of us that work on the mainframe. My job search so far
has produced very few interviews and no job offers. The jobless recovery
sure sucks.

Duane

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Subject: DSN1COPY -- for replication



Hello,

I am a 390 newbie and I need some help with the DSN1COPY utility. What I
want to do is to replicate the objects and data from one database into
several other databases. Does anybody out there have a manual they can
share, or a link that they can direct me to, or share about the problems you
ran into?

I just want to know where to start: do I need to select the OBIDs first?
how do I account for the 500 OBIDs limit? do I need to find all the
datasets that correlate to the tablespaces that I want to move first? how
do I know which dataset I need? Or if you have a completely different
approach, I'll welcome any suggestions you have. (I'm eager to learn.)

Thanks in advance!!!

Nam
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tim malamphy

Re: DSN1COPY -- for replication
(in response to cliff boley)
Hi Cliff-
It's not a problem being a CIO
if you're willing to forget everything you've learned,
and give up wearing shorts for a suit and tie.
And you'll have to quit using acronyms like DB2 and
CICS in favor of muddled business-speak. You need to
include as many catch phrases as possible into every
statement.

ex: We're leveraging our core competencies embracing
the newly benchmarked paradigms positioning us
vis-a-vis with our competition.

Which roughly translates to "I have no idea what I'm
doing so I'm going to follow the Microsoft crowd down
the drain"

Maybe we can have a contest to see who on the list has
the potential to be a CIO...it's almost Friday.


Disclaimer:This does NOT apply to my CIO who is the
brightest, most dynamic, executive I've ever had the
opportunity to work for.

tim

--- [login to unmask email] wrote:
> Man how can I get one of those CIO jobs, they seem
> pretty bullet proof from
> changes in technology.
> Would my 20 years as a real programmer handicap me?
> cliff:-o
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Duane Lee - EGOVX
> [mailto:[login to unmask email]
> Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2003 5:01 PM
> To: [login to unmask email]
> Subject: Re: DSN1COPY -- for replication
>
>
> I built some SQL and REXX to build the DSN1COPY JCL
> for me. I use one SQL
> routine too extract the source information, one SQL
> routine to extract the
> target information and a REXX routine to read the
> extracted data and build
> the DSN1COPY JCL. If you have multiple tables per
> tablespace this won't
> work without modification on your part. If you are
> interested let me know
> and I'll send what I have to you and you can do with
> it what you will. It
> sets up one step per table. The table names must be
> the same in the target
> environment as they are in the source. I'm,
> unfortunately, still running on
> v5 with no prospects of moving to a new release so
> if you're on a later
> release you may need to modify the routines.
>
> By the way if you have any job openings for a DB2
> DBA/Systems Programmer
> please let me know because all of us on the
> mainframe are being phased out
> because our CIO has chosen to move to Microsoft 2000
> and MS SQL Server 2003
> and not train any of us that work on the mainframe.
> My job search so far
> has produced very few interviews and no job offers.
> The jobless recovery
> sure sucks.
>
> Duane
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [login to unmask email]
> [mailto:[login to unmask email]
> Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2003 5:35 PM
> To: [login to unmask email]
> Subject: DSN1COPY -- for replication
>
>
>
> Hello,
>
> I am a 390 newbie and I need some help with the
> DSN1COPY utility. What I
> want to do is to replicate the objects and data from
> one database into
> several other databases. Does anybody out there
> have a manual they can
> share, or a link that they can direct me to, or
> share about the problems you
> ran into?
>
> I just want to know where to start: do I need to
> select the OBIDs first?
> how do I account for the 500 OBIDs limit? do I need
> to find all the
> datasets that correlate to the tablespaces that I
> want to move first? how
> do I know which dataset I need? Or if you have a
> completely different
> approach, I'll welcome any suggestions you have.
> (I'm eager to learn.)
>
> Thanks in advance!!!
>
> Nam
>
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tim malamphy

Re: DSN1COPY -- for replication
(in response to Don Weigend)
Hi Cliff-
It's not a problem being a CIO
if you're willing to forget everything you've learned,
and give up wearing shorts for a suit and tie.
And you'll have to quit using acronyms like DB2 and
CICS in favor of muddled business-speak. You need to
include as many catch phrases as possible into every
statement.

ex: We're leveraging our core competencies embracing
the newly benchmarked paradigms positioning us
vis-a-vis with our competition.

Which roughly translates to "I have no idea what I'm
doing so I'm going to follow the Microsoft crowd down
the drain"

Maybe we can have a contest to see who on the list has
the potential to be a CIO...it's almost Friday.


Disclaimer:This does NOT apply to my CIO who is the
brightest, most dynamic, executive I've ever had the
opportunity to work for.

tim

--- [login to unmask email] wrote:
> Man how can I get one of those CIO jobs, they seem
> pretty bullet proof from
> changes in technology.
> Would my 20 years as a real programmer handicap me?
> cliff:-o
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Duane Lee - EGOVX
> [mailto:[login to unmask email]
> Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2003 5:01 PM
> To: [login to unmask email]
> Subject: Re: DSN1COPY -- for replication
>
>
> I built some SQL and REXX to build the DSN1COPY JCL
> for me. I use one SQL
> routine too extract the source information, one SQL
> routine to extract the
> target information and a REXX routine to read the
> extracted data and build
> the DSN1COPY JCL. If you have multiple tables per
> tablespace this won't
> work without modification on your part. If you are
> interested let me know
> and I'll send what I have to you and you can do with
> it what you will. It
> sets up one step per table. The table names must be
> the same in the target
> environment as they are in the source. I'm,
> unfortunately, still running on
> v5 with no prospects of moving to a new release so
> if you're on a later
> release you may need to modify the routines.
>
> By the way if you have any job openings for a DB2
> DBA/Systems Programmer
> please let me know because all of us on the
> mainframe are being phased out
> because our CIO has chosen to move to Microsoft 2000
> and MS SQL Server 2003
> and not train any of us that work on the mainframe.
> My job search so far
> has produced very few interviews and no job offers.
> The jobless recovery
> sure sucks.
>
> Duane
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [login to unmask email]
> [mailto:[login to unmask email]
> Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2003 5:35 PM
> To: [login to unmask email]
> Subject: DSN1COPY -- for replication
>
>
>
> Hello,
>
> I am a 390 newbie and I need some help with the
> DSN1COPY utility. What I
> want to do is to replicate the objects and data from
> one database into
> several other databases. Does anybody out there
> have a manual they can
> share, or a link that they can direct me to, or
> share about the problems you
> ran into?
>
> I just want to know where to start: do I need to
> select the OBIDs first?
> how do I account for the 500 OBIDs limit? do I need
> to find all the
> datasets that correlate to the tablespaces that I
> want to move first? how
> do I know which dataset I need? Or if you have a
> completely different
> approach, I'll welcome any suggestions you have.
> (I'm eager to learn.)
>
> Thanks in advance!!!
>
> Nam
>
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Don Weigend

Re: DSN1COPY -- for replication
(in response to tim malamphy)
Well said, and it rings so true.

Don Weigend
DB2 OS/390 Sysprog
IBM Certified Solutions Expert - DB2 V7 Database Administration OS/390
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Subject: Re: DSN1COPY -- for replication

Hi Cliff-
It's not a problem being a CIO
if you're willing to forget everything you've learned,
and give up wearing shorts for a suit and tie.
And you'll have to quit using acronyms like DB2 and
CICS in favor of muddled business-speak. You need to
include as many catch phrases as possible into every
statement.

ex: We're leveraging our core competencies embracing
the newly benchmarked paradigms positioning us
vis-a-vis with our competition.

Which roughly translates to "I have no idea what I'm
doing so I'm going to follow the Microsoft crowd down
the drain"

Maybe we can have a contest to see who on the list has
the potential to be a CIO...it's almost Friday.


Disclaimer:This does NOT apply to my CIO who is the
brightest, most dynamic, executive I've ever had the
opportunity to work for

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Srini S Rajan

Re: DSN1COPY -- for replication
(in response to tim malamphy)
I could not understand, why a CIO thinks a person who drives a semi truck
cannot
drive a car. Transition should be so easy. IMS principles maps to XML.
Stateless
CICS programming maps to ASP.net.

Srini S Rajan (Known As Sundar)

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Max Scarpa

Re: DSN1COPY -- for replication
(in response to Srini S Rajan)
I'd like to know how they think it's more productive to move to cheaper
machine like WIN2000 or SQL SERVER

Here 2 sysprogs manage a mainframe and a lot of data and other things with
minimal outage while in the same time time 2 sysprogs plus some programmers
are unable to tune only 1 (one) application in a decent manner on SQL
Server, with a lot and prolonged outages. And licence fees are NOT so
cheap for only 1 server.

Neverthless I receive a lot of mail clearly showing the disappearing of
mainframe as production platform. Mah

Max Scarpa

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Don Weigend

Re: DSN1COPY -- for replication
(in response to Max Scarpa)
Hey, our CIO can not even run a power point without the help of another
person. So why would you think they would understand that the transition
would be easy.

Don Weigend
DB2 OS/390 Sysprog
IBM Certified Solutions Expert - DB2 V7 Database Administration OS/390
West Bend Mutual Insurance Company


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I could not understand, why a CIO thinks a person who drives a semi
truck
cannot
drive a car. Transition should be so easy. IMS principles maps to XML.
Stateless
CICS programming maps to ASP.net.

Srini S Rajan (Known As Sundar)


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cliff boley

Re: DSN1COPY -- for replication
(in response to Don Weigend)
We had a miserable failure with client-server and have since move all of it
back to
the mainframe.
We're looking at moving the server farms to mainframe/linx.
So its not all bad news.
cliff:-)

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I'd like to know how they think it's more productive to move to cheaper
machine like WIN2000 or SQL SERVER

Here 2 sysprogs manage a mainframe and a lot of data and other things with
minimal outage while in the same time time 2 sysprogs plus some programmers
are unable to tune only 1 (one) application in a decent manner on SQL
Server, with a lot and prolonged outages. And licence fees are NOT so
cheap for only 1 server.

Neverthless I receive a lot of mail clearly showing the disappearing of
mainframe as production platform. Mah

Max Scarpa

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