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    Tom Willis
    My team is begining to look at pulling one of our major applications from
    the mainframe. Currently, we have a java front end. Most of the business
    logic is controlled with CICS transactions with DB2 OS/390 on the back end.
    The goal is to move to an all unix environment. Moving to UDB on unix is not
    the issue it is what to use instead of CICS? Does anyone have any experience
    with porting applications using CICS on the mainframe to a distributed
    environment? Any insight would help.

    Thanks


    Tom Willis
    Database Analyst Consultant
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    Dave Nance
    [First Health Services, Corp.]
    I used to work at a couple of places that tried this after I had left and they both failed miserably. I'm not sure what they used, other than JAVA and Visual Basic, but I did hear that they both failed miserably and they are still running the apps that were supported previously. So, lots of luck to you and hold on to your seat.

    Dave Nance
    First Health Services, Corp.
    (804)527-6841


    >>> [login to unmask email] 2/24/04 7:34:42 AM >>>
    My team is begining to look at pulling one of our major applications from
    the mainframe. Currently, we have a java front end. Most of the business
    logic is controlled with CICS transactions with DB2 OS/390 on the back end.
    The goal is to move to an all unix environment. Moving to UDB on unix is not
    the issue it is what to use instead of CICS? Does anyone have any experience
    with porting applications using CICS on the mainframe to a distributed
    environment? Any insight would help.

    Thanks


    Tom Willis
    Database Analyst Consultant
    Email : [login to unmask email]

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    Dave Nance
    [First Health Services, Corp.]
    I used to work at a couple of places that tried this after I had left and they both failed miserably. I'm not sure what they used, other than JAVA and Visual Basic, but I did hear that they both failed miserably and they are still running the apps that were supported previously. So, lots of luck to you and hold on to your seat.

    Dave Nance
    First Health Services, Corp.
    (804)527-6841


    >>> [login to unmask email] 2/24/04 7:34:42 AM >>>
    My team is begining to look at pulling one of our major applications from
    the mainframe. Currently, we have a java front end. Most of the business
    logic is controlled with CICS transactions with DB2 OS/390 on the back end.
    The goal is to move to an all unix environment. Moving to UDB on unix is not
    the issue it is what to use instead of CICS? Does anyone have any experience
    with porting applications using CICS on the mainframe to a distributed
    environment? Any insight would help.

    Thanks


    Tom Willis
    Database Analyst Consultant
    Email : [login to unmask email]

    _________________________________________________________________
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    John McKown
    Have you considered CICS on your UNIX system? Try looking at

    http://www.ibm.com/software/htp/cics/txseries/




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    > My team is begining to look at pulling one of our major
    > applications from
    > the mainframe. Currently, we have a java front end. Most of
    > the business
    > logic is controlled with CICS transactions with DB2 OS/390 on
    > the back end.
    > The goal is to move to an all unix environment. Moving to UDB
    > on unix is not
    > the issue it is what to use instead of CICS? Does anyone have
    > any experience
    > with porting applications using CICS on the mainframe to a distributed
    > environment? Any insight would help.
    >
    > Thanks
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    > Tom Willis
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    Treven Roman
    There is CICS on IBM AIX platform called TXSeries. Look at IBM WEB page
    for detailed product specs. Works well for our bank. PL/I, C and Cobol are
    supported languages and compilers. It supports DB2, Oracle, Sybase, Informix
    and even SQL Server.
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    Sector for informatics

    Post Bank of Slovenia, d.d.

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    -----Original Message-----
    From: David Nance [mailto:[login to unmask email]
    Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2004 2:31 PM
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    Subject: Re: CICS alternatives


    I used to work at a couple of places that tried this after I had left and
    they both failed miserably. I'm not sure what they used, other than JAVA and
    Visual Basic, but I did hear that they both failed miserably and they are
    still running the apps that were supported previously. So, lots of luck to
    you and hold on to your seat.

    Dave Nance
    First Health Services, Corp.
    (804)527-6841


    >>> [login to unmask email] 2/24/04 7:34:42 AM >>>
    My team is begining to look at pulling one of our major applications from
    the mainframe. Currently, we have a java front end. Most of the business
    logic is controlled with CICS transactions with DB2 OS/390 on the back end.
    The goal is to move to an all unix environment. Moving to UDB on unix is not
    the issue it is what to use instead of CICS? Does anyone have any experience
    with porting applications using CICS on the mainframe to a distributed
    environment? Any insight would help.

    Thanks


    Tom Willis
    Database Analyst Consultant
    Email : [login to unmask email]

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    Treven Roman
    There is CICS on IBM AIX platform called TXSeries. Look at IBM WEB page
    for detailed product specs. Works well for our bank. PL/I, C and Cobol are
    supported languages and compilers. It supports DB2, Oracle, Sybase, Informix
    and even SQL Server.
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    Roman Treven

    Sector for informatics

    Post Bank of Slovenia, d.d.

    ============



    -----Original Message-----
    From: David Nance [mailto:[login to unmask email]
    Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2004 2:31 PM
    To: [login to unmask email]
    Subject: Re: CICS alternatives


    I used to work at a couple of places that tried this after I had left and
    they both failed miserably. I'm not sure what they used, other than JAVA and
    Visual Basic, but I did hear that they both failed miserably and they are
    still running the apps that were supported previously. So, lots of luck to
    you and hold on to your seat.

    Dave Nance
    First Health Services, Corp.
    (804)527-6841


    >>> [login to unmask email] 2/24/04 7:34:42 AM >>>
    My team is begining to look at pulling one of our major applications from
    the mainframe. Currently, we have a java front end. Most of the business
    logic is controlled with CICS transactions with DB2 OS/390 on the back end.
    The goal is to move to an all unix environment. Moving to UDB on unix is not
    the issue it is what to use instead of CICS? Does anyone have any experience
    with porting applications using CICS on the mainframe to a distributed
    environment? Any insight would help.

    Thanks


    Tom Willis
    Database Analyst Consultant
    Email : [login to unmask email]

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    Joseph Fatula
    Tom:

    Actually, you can run CICS on UNIX. TXSeries (which is really CICS
    on Unix) runs on AIX and some other flavors of Unix I believe like Solaris.
    It used to be called "CICS for AIX" and before that "CICS/6000" because it
    was initially released to run on the RS/6000.
    Definitely not the same code base as CICS/TS and not all of the same
    features. It was a "clean sheet of paper" for Unix: each CICS task is a
    Unix process. To port your applications, they will need to be recompiled
    and retested.

    Joe Fatula

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    My team is begining to look at pulling one of our major applications from
    the mainframe. Currently, we have a java front end. Most of the business
    logic is controlled with CICS transactions with DB2 OS/390 on the back end.
    The goal is to move to an all unix environment. Moving to UDB on unix is
    not
    the issue it is what to use instead of CICS? Does anyone have any
    experience
    with porting applications using CICS on the mainframe to a distributed
    environment? Any insight would help.

    Thanks


    Tom Willis
    Database Analyst Consultant
    Email : [login to unmask email]

    _________________________________________________________________
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