CICS alternatives

Tom Willis

CICS alternatives
My team is begining to look at pulling one of our major applications from
the mainframe. Currently, we have a java front end. Most of the business
logic is controlled with CICS transactions with DB2 OS/390 on the back end.
The goal is to move to an all unix environment. Moving to UDB on unix is not
the issue it is what to use instead of CICS? Does anyone have any experience
with porting applications using CICS on the mainframe to a distributed
environment? Any insight would help.

Thanks


Tom Willis
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Dave Nance

Re: CICS alternatives
(in response to Tom Willis)
I used to work at a couple of places that tried this after I had left and they both failed miserably. I'm not sure what they used, other than JAVA and Visual Basic, but I did hear that they both failed miserably and they are still running the apps that were supported previously. So, lots of luck to you and hold on to your seat.

Dave Nance
First Health Services, Corp.
(804)527-6841


>>> [login to unmask email] 2/24/04 7:34:42 AM >>>
My team is begining to look at pulling one of our major applications from
the mainframe. Currently, we have a java front end. Most of the business
logic is controlled with CICS transactions with DB2 OS/390 on the back end.
The goal is to move to an all unix environment. Moving to UDB on unix is not
the issue it is what to use instead of CICS? Does anyone have any experience
with porting applications using CICS on the mainframe to a distributed
environment? Any insight would help.

Thanks


Tom Willis
Database Analyst Consultant
Email : [login to unmask email]

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Dave Nance

Re: CICS alternatives
(in response to Treven Roman)
I used to work at a couple of places that tried this after I had left and they both failed miserably. I'm not sure what they used, other than JAVA and Visual Basic, but I did hear that they both failed miserably and they are still running the apps that were supported previously. So, lots of luck to you and hold on to your seat.

Dave Nance
First Health Services, Corp.
(804)527-6841


>>> [login to unmask email] 2/24/04 7:34:42 AM >>>
My team is begining to look at pulling one of our major applications from
the mainframe. Currently, we have a java front end. Most of the business
logic is controlled with CICS transactions with DB2 OS/390 on the back end.
The goal is to move to an all unix environment. Moving to UDB on unix is not
the issue it is what to use instead of CICS? Does anyone have any experience
with porting applications using CICS on the mainframe to a distributed
environment? Any insight would help.

Thanks


Tom Willis
Database Analyst Consultant
Email : [login to unmask email]

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John McKown

Re: CICS alternatives
(in response to Dave Nance)
Have you considered CICS on your UNIX system? Try looking at

http://www.ibm.com/software/htp/cics/txseries/




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>
>
> My team is begining to look at pulling one of our major
> applications from
> the mainframe. Currently, we have a java front end. Most of
> the business
> logic is controlled with CICS transactions with DB2 OS/390 on
> the back end.
> The goal is to move to an all unix environment. Moving to UDB
> on unix is not
> the issue it is what to use instead of CICS? Does anyone have
> any experience
> with porting applications using CICS on the mainframe to a distributed
> environment? Any insight would help.
>
> Thanks
>
>
> Tom Willis
> Database Analyst Consultant
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Treven Roman

Re: CICS alternatives
(in response to Joseph Fatula)
There is CICS on IBM AIX platform called TXSeries. Look at IBM WEB page
for detailed product specs. Works well for our bank. PL/I, C and Cobol are
supported languages and compilers. It supports DB2, Oracle, Sybase, Informix
and even SQL Server.
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Sector for informatics

Post Bank of Slovenia, d.d.

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From: David Nance [mailto:[login to unmask email]
Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2004 2:31 PM
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Subject: Re: CICS alternatives


I used to work at a couple of places that tried this after I had left and
they both failed miserably. I'm not sure what they used, other than JAVA and
Visual Basic, but I did hear that they both failed miserably and they are
still running the apps that were supported previously. So, lots of luck to
you and hold on to your seat.

Dave Nance
First Health Services, Corp.
(804)527-6841


>>> [login to unmask email] 2/24/04 7:34:42 AM >>>
My team is begining to look at pulling one of our major applications from
the mainframe. Currently, we have a java front end. Most of the business
logic is controlled with CICS transactions with DB2 OS/390 on the back end.
The goal is to move to an all unix environment. Moving to UDB on unix is not
the issue it is what to use instead of CICS? Does anyone have any experience
with porting applications using CICS on the mainframe to a distributed
environment? Any insight would help.

Thanks


Tom Willis
Database Analyst Consultant
Email : [login to unmask email]

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Treven Roman

Re: CICS alternatives
(in response to Dave Nance)
There is CICS on IBM AIX platform called TXSeries. Look at IBM WEB page
for detailed product specs. Works well for our bank. PL/I, C and Cobol are
supported languages and compilers. It supports DB2, Oracle, Sybase, Informix
and even SQL Server.
============

Roman Treven

Sector for informatics

Post Bank of Slovenia, d.d.

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Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2004 2:31 PM
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Subject: Re: CICS alternatives


I used to work at a couple of places that tried this after I had left and
they both failed miserably. I'm not sure what they used, other than JAVA and
Visual Basic, but I did hear that they both failed miserably and they are
still running the apps that were supported previously. So, lots of luck to
you and hold on to your seat.

Dave Nance
First Health Services, Corp.
(804)527-6841


>>> [login to unmask email] 2/24/04 7:34:42 AM >>>
My team is begining to look at pulling one of our major applications from
the mainframe. Currently, we have a java front end. Most of the business
logic is controlled with CICS transactions with DB2 OS/390 on the back end.
The goal is to move to an all unix environment. Moving to UDB on unix is not
the issue it is what to use instead of CICS? Does anyone have any experience
with porting applications using CICS on the mainframe to a distributed
environment? Any insight would help.

Thanks


Tom Willis
Database Analyst Consultant
Email : [login to unmask email]

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Joseph Fatula

CICS alternatives
(in response to John McKown)
Tom:

Actually, you can run CICS on UNIX. TXSeries (which is really CICS
on Unix) runs on AIX and some other flavors of Unix I believe like Solaris.
It used to be called "CICS for AIX" and before that "CICS/6000" because it
was initially released to run on the RS/6000.
Definitely not the same code base as CICS/TS and not all of the same
features. It was a "clean sheet of paper" for Unix: each CICS task is a
Unix process. To port your applications, they will need to be recompiled
and retested.

Joe Fatula

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My team is begining to look at pulling one of our major applications from
the mainframe. Currently, we have a java front end. Most of the business
logic is controlled with CICS transactions with DB2 OS/390 on the back end.
The goal is to move to an all unix environment. Moving to UDB on unix is
not
the issue it is what to use instead of CICS? Does anyone have any
experience
with porting applications using CICS on the mainframe to a distributed
environment? Any insight would help.

Thanks


Tom Willis
Database Analyst Consultant
Email : [login to unmask email]

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