Remotely access DB2 from CICS?

Scott Taylor

Remotely access DB2 from CICS?
Hello list,

I apologize in advance if this question is elementary, but I have very
little knowledge of CICS. Can a mainframe DB2 V7 CICS application use
three part names to access another DB2 subsystem residing on a different
mainframe server? When I try to reason this out in my mind, it seems like
it could be done, but I'm not sure how RCT entries would be handled (likely
due to my basic understand of RCT and CICS).

Thanks in advance for any comments.
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Scott Taylor
Senior DB2 DBA, Autozone
123 S Front St, Memphis, TN 38103
(901)/495-7797

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Wayne Campbell

Re: Remotely access DB2 from CICS?
(in response to Scott Taylor)
Yes. You need a DB2 subsystems on both boxes, able to use DDF to talk
between them. You then create an Alias on the box with the CICS region
that point to the Location of the Box with the Database that you wish to
access. There is a fair amount of CPU overhead associated with the DDF
on the client box.


Wayne Campbell
DB2 DBA
Administrative Office of the Courts
(360) 705-5268
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Hello list,

I apologize in advance if this question is elementary, but I have very
little knowledge of CICS. Can a mainframe DB2 V7 CICS application use
three part names to access another DB2 subsystem residing on a different
mainframe server? When I try to reason this out in my mind, it seems
like
it could be done, but I'm not sure how RCT entries would be handled
(likely
due to my basic understand of RCT and CICS).

Thanks in advance for any comments.
------------------------------------------------------------------------
----------------------------

Scott Taylor
Senior DB2 DBA, Autozone
123 S Front St, Memphis, TN 38103
(901)/495-7797

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Scott Taylor

Re: Remotely access DB2 from CICS?
(in response to Wayne Campbell)
Thanks, sorry I wasn't more clear. I understand how to set up the CDB for
this to work, but was more interested in any special considerations
specific with CICS or RCT setup.

Thanks again.
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Scott Taylor
Senior DB2 DBA, Autozone
123 S Front St, Memphis, TN 38103
(901)/495-7797




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Yes. You need a DB2 subsystems on both boxes, able to use DDF to talk
between them. You then create an Alias on the box with the CICS region
that point to the Location of the Box with the Database that you wish to
access. There is a fair amount of CPU overhead associated with the DDF
on the client box.


Wayne Campbell
DB2 DBA
Administrative Office of the Courts
(360) 705-5268
Email: [login to unmask email]

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Subject: Remotely access DB2 from CICS?

Hello list,

I apologize in advance if this question is elementary, but I have very
little knowledge of CICS. Can a mainframe DB2 V7 CICS application use
three part names to access another DB2 subsystem residing on a different
mainframe server? When I try to reason this out in my mind, it seems
like
it could be done, but I'm not sure how RCT entries would be handled
(likely
due to my basic understand of RCT and CICS).

Thanks in advance for any comments.
------------------------------------------------------------------------
----------------------------

Scott Taylor
Senior DB2 DBA, Autozone
123 S Front St, Memphis, TN 38103
(901)/495-7797

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Scott Taylor

Re: Remotely access DB2 from CICS?
(in response to M. Khalid Khan)
Thanks, sorry I wasn't more clear. I understand how to set up the CDB for
this to work, but was more interested in any special considerations
specific with CICS or RCT setup.

Thanks again.
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

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Senior DB2 DBA, Autozone
123 S Front St, Memphis, TN 38103
(901)/495-7797




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Yes. You need a DB2 subsystems on both boxes, able to use DDF to talk
between them. You then create an Alias on the box with the CICS region
that point to the Location of the Box with the Database that you wish to
access. There is a fair amount of CPU overhead associated with the DDF
on the client box.


Wayne Campbell
DB2 DBA
Administrative Office of the Courts
(360) 705-5268
Email: [login to unmask email]

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Subject: Remotely access DB2 from CICS?

Hello list,

I apologize in advance if this question is elementary, but I have very
little knowledge of CICS. Can a mainframe DB2 V7 CICS application use
three part names to access another DB2 subsystem residing on a different
mainframe server? When I try to reason this out in my mind, it seems
like
it could be done, but I'm not sure how RCT entries would be handled
(likely
due to my basic understand of RCT and CICS).

Thanks in advance for any comments.
------------------------------------------------------------------------
----------------------------

Scott Taylor
Senior DB2 DBA, Autozone
123 S Front St, Memphis, TN 38103
(901)/495-7797

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Tom Moulder

Re: Remotely access DB2 from CICS?
(in response to Scott Taylor)
Scott

I don't know how you have CICS setup, but you could use native CICS to
function ship the transaction to the LPAR with the DB2 and execute the
transaction there natively. The overhead of CICS ot move around the network
would be less than that of DB2.

Tom Moulder
TREX Associates, Inc.
9728 Delmonico
Keller, TX. 76248-9559
+1 817-741-5549 Office
+1 817-741-5548 Fax
+1 832-858-4279 Mobile
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Thanks, sorry I wasn't more clear. I understand how to set up the CDB for
this to work, but was more interested in any special considerations specific
with CICS or RCT setup.

Thanks again.
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Scott Taylor
Senior DB2 DBA, Autozone
123 S Front St, Memphis, TN 38103
(901)/495-7797




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Yes. You need a DB2 subsystems on both boxes, able to use DDF to talk
between them. You then create an Alias on the box with the CICS region that
point to the Location of the Box with the Database that you wish to access.
There is a fair amount of CPU overhead associated with the DDF on the client
box.


Wayne Campbell
DB2 DBA
Administrative Office of the Courts
(360) 705-5268
Email: [login to unmask email]

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Subject: Remotely access DB2 from CICS?

Hello list,

I apologize in advance if this question is elementary, but I have very
little knowledge of CICS. Can a mainframe DB2 V7 CICS application use three
part names to access another DB2 subsystem residing on a different mainframe
server? When I try to reason this out in my mind, it seems like it could be
done, but I'm not sure how RCT entries would be handled (likely due to my
basic understand of RCT and CICS).

Thanks in advance for any comments.
------------------------------------------------------------------------
----------------------------

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Senior DB2 DBA, Autozone
123 S Front St, Memphis, TN 38103
(901)/495-7797

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Tom Moulder

Re: Remotely access DB2 from CICS?
(in response to Scott Taylor)
Scott

I don't know how you have CICS setup, but you could use native CICS to
function ship the transaction to the LPAR with the DB2 and execute the
transaction there natively. The overhead of CICS ot move around the network
would be less than that of DB2.

Tom Moulder
TREX Associates, Inc.
9728 Delmonico
Keller, TX. 76248-9559
+1 817-741-5549 Office
+1 817-741-5548 Fax
+1 832-858-4279 Mobile
www.t-rex-associates.com Web Site


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Thanks, sorry I wasn't more clear. I understand how to set up the CDB for
this to work, but was more interested in any special considerations specific
with CICS or RCT setup.

Thanks again.
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
------------------------

Scott Taylor
Senior DB2 DBA, Autozone
123 S Front St, Memphis, TN 38103
(901)/495-7797




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Yes. You need a DB2 subsystems on both boxes, able to use DDF to talk
between them. You then create an Alias on the box with the CICS region that
point to the Location of the Box with the Database that you wish to access.
There is a fair amount of CPU overhead associated with the DDF on the client
box.


Wayne Campbell
DB2 DBA
Administrative Office of the Courts
(360) 705-5268
Email: [login to unmask email]

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Subject: Remotely access DB2 from CICS?

Hello list,

I apologize in advance if this question is elementary, but I have very
little knowledge of CICS. Can a mainframe DB2 V7 CICS application use three
part names to access another DB2 subsystem residing on a different mainframe
server? When I try to reason this out in my mind, it seems like it could be
done, but I'm not sure how RCT entries would be handled (likely due to my
basic understand of RCT and CICS).

Thanks in advance for any comments.
------------------------------------------------------------------------
----------------------------

Scott Taylor
Senior DB2 DBA, Autozone
123 S Front St, Memphis, TN 38103
(901)/495-7797

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M. Khalid Khan

Re: Remotely access DB2 from CICS?
(in response to Tom Moulder)
This along with another thread on high CPU cost of DDF begs the question -
is there a product that can work as a DRDA AR in z/OS ( and off course be
cheaper in $ and CPU than a full fledged DB2 subsystem) ? If yes, DB2 can be
offloaded to a z/OS.e box / lpar.
Just wondering
Khalid

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Yes. You need a DB2 subsystems on both boxes, able to use DDF to talk
between them. You then create an Alias on the box with the CICS region
that point to the Location of the Box with the Database that you wish to
access. There is a fair amount of CPU overhead associated with the DDF
on the client box.

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Wayne Campbell

Re: Remotely access DB2 from CICS?
(in response to Tom Moulder)
We did this when we needed more CPU but couldn't afford all al the cost
to upgrade 3rd Party software. We ended up buying a Z800 with Z/OSe.
We moved the DB2 subsystems to the new box and created new subsystems on
the old box. We then created Alias with the same names at the pointing
to the production tables on the new box. I believe the only changes to
the CICS were to change the DB2ID to the name of the new subsystem on
the old box.

Wayne Campbell
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Thanks, sorry I wasn't more clear. I understand how to set up the CDB
for
this to work, but was more interested in any special considerations
specific with CICS or RCT setup.

Thanks again.
------------------------------------------------------------------------
----------------------------

Scott Taylor
Senior DB2 DBA, Autozone
123 S Front St, Memphis, TN 38103
(901)/495-7797




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Yes. You need a DB2 subsystems on both boxes, able to use DDF to talk
between them. You then create an Alias on the box with the CICS region
that point to the Location of the Box with the Database that you wish to
access. There is a fair amount of CPU overhead associated with the DDF
on the client box.


Wayne Campbell
DB2 DBA
Administrative Office of the Courts
(360) 705-5268
Email: [login to unmask email]

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Subject: Remotely access DB2 from CICS?

Hello list,

I apologize in advance if this question is elementary, but I have very
little knowledge of CICS. Can a mainframe DB2 V7 CICS application use
three part names to access another DB2 subsystem residing on a different
mainframe server? When I try to reason this out in my mind, it seems
like
it could be done, but I'm not sure how RCT entries would be handled
(likely
due to my basic understand of RCT and CICS).

Thanks in advance for any comments.
------------------------------------------------------------------------
----------------------------

Scott Taylor
Senior DB2 DBA, Autozone
123 S Front St, Memphis, TN 38103
(901)/495-7797

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