Unicode conversion under DB2 V8

jack fernicola

Unicode conversion under DB2 V8
Hello listeners,

"Are there any DB2 version 8 customers who performed the Unicode CCSID conversion under DB2 version 8 compatibility mode (rather than under DB2 v7)?"
"If so, I'd appreciate it if you would describe any positive or negative experiences with the conversion."

Thank you.
Jack


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Re: Unicode conversion under DB2 V8
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jack fernicola <[login to unmask email]> wrote: Hello listeners,

"Are there any DB2 version 8 customers who performed the Unicode CCSID conversion under DB2 version 8 compatibility mode (rather than under DB2 v7)?"
"If so, I'd appreciate it if you would describe any positive or negative experiences with the conversion."

Thank you.
Jack


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Raymond Bell

Re: Unicode conversion under DB2 V8
(in response to jack fernicola)
Jack,

Not quite sure what you're asking here. Do you want to know if anyone
dropped/recreated their DBs using Unicode? Or something else? We're V8 CM
and have had a few CCSID issues I'm happy to share but it might not be what
you're asking.

Cheers,


Raymond Bell
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Subject: [DB2-L] Unicode conversion under DB2 V8

Hello listeners,

"Are there any DB2 version 8 customers who performed the Unicode CCSID
conversion under DB2 version 8 compatibility mode (rather than under DB2
v7)?"
"If so, I'd appreciate it if you would describe any positive or negative
experiences with the conversion."

Thank you.
Jack


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jack fernicola

Re: Unicode conversion under DB2 V8
(in response to Raymond Bell)
Raymond,

Our issue is, do we do the unicode conversion under V7 or V8. IBM support recommends that we do it under V7.

The problem we face is political and financial not technical. Our management doesn't want to pay for 2 versions and our DBA/application group dosen't have the resources to do the conversion at this time. The IBM support clock is ticking for V7.

One solution to our dilema is to upgrade to CM on V8 and then do the unicode conversion. IBM indicated there were not many customers that took this route and that it would be a more complicated conversion. However, any problems we do encounter on V8 would be supported by IBM.

Yes, I would like to know the issues you had during your migration and any thoughts on our approach.

I can be reached at 201-635-5376.

Thanks
Jack



"Bell, Raymond" <[login to unmask email]> wrote:
Jack,

Not quite sure what you're asking here. Do you want to know if anyone
dropped/recreated their DBs using Unicode? Or something else? We're V8 CM
and have had a few CCSID issues I'm happy to share but it might not be what
you're asking.

Cheers,


Raymond Bell
Database Administrator

-----Original Message-----
From: DB2 Data Base Discussion List on behalf of jack fernicola
Sent: Tue 12/19/2006 8:19 PM
To: [login to unmask email]
Subject: [DB2-L] Unicode conversion under DB2 V8

Hello listeners,

"Are there any DB2 version 8 customers who performed the Unicode CCSID
conversion under DB2 version 8 compatibility mode (rather than under DB2
v7)?"
"If so, I'd appreciate it if you would describe any positive or negative
experiences with the conversion."

Thank you.
Jack


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Raymond Bell

Re: Unicode conversion under DB2 V8
(in response to jack fernicola)
Jack,

I'm sorry but I'm still being a bit thick. I don't get the 'unicode
conversion' bit. We're V8 CM, like I said, but haven't converted anything
to Unicode. When we did the migration to V8 CM there were 2-3
EBCDIC-Unicode conversion pairings we had to have beforehand (although,
typically, we found out in our Sysprog play subsystems at the time - oops)
and I've since added EBCDIC 1146 <-> Unicode 1208 for some C (pre)compiler
testing, but that's it. We won't do any actual conversion until we go thru
the V8 ENFM stuff i.e. when we convert the DB2 Catalog using a combination
of CATENFM and Reorg with the CONVERTV8 parm.

So unless you're asking a different question, which I suspect you are, you
only do the conversion to Unicode when you go through the ENFM jobs.

Or am I missing something?

Cheers,


Raymond Bell
Database Administrator
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rates from the UK to the US are unlikely to slip by on my expenses claim for
the month.

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Sent: 21 December 2006 15:55
To: [login to unmask email]
Subject: Re: [DB2-L] Unicode conversion under DB2 V8


Raymond,

Our issue is, do we do the unicode conversion under V7 or V8. IBM support
recommends that we do it under V7.

The problem we face is political and financial not technical. Our management
doesn't want to pay for 2 versions and our DBA/application group dosen't
have the resources to do the conversion at this time. The IBM support clock
is ticking for V7.

One solution to our dilema is to upgrade to CM on V8 and then do the unicode
conversion. IBM indicated there were not many customers that took this route
and that it would be a more complicated conversion. However, any problems we
do encounter on V8 would be supported by IBM.

Yes, I would like to know the issues you had during your migration and any
thoughts on our approach.

I can be reached at 201-635-5376.

Thanks
Jack



"Bell, Raymond" <[login to unmask email]> wrote:

Jack,

Not quite sure what you're asking here. Do you want to know if anyone
dropped/recreated their DBs using Unicode? Or something else? We're V8 CM
and have had a few CCSID issues I'm happy to share but it might not be what
you're asking.

Cheers,


Raymond Bell
Database Administrator

-----Original Message-----
From: DB2 Data Base Discussion List on behalf of jack fernicola
Sent: Tue 12/19/2006 8:19 PM
To: [login to unmask email]
Subject: [DB2-L] Unicode conversion under DB2 V8

Hello listeners,

"Are there any DB2 version 8 customers who performed the Unicode CCSID
conversion under DB2 version 8 compatibility mode (rather than under DB2
v7)?"
"If so, I'd appreciate it if you would describe any positive or negative
experiences with the conversion."

Thank you.
Jack


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Sysdba AHE

Re: Unicode conversion under DB2 V8
(in response to Raymond Bell)
Jack,

Do you mean you want to change ("correct") your system's EBCDIC CCSID? If
so then your term "Unicode conversion" is confusing.

IBM support will provide the necessary temporary fix and lots of guidance
to do this under V7, and have done so for many customers already. Have
they said that they will do so under V8 CM? I've certainly never heard of
anyone doing it.

Regards
Neil Price
TNT Express

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Raymond Bell

Re: Unicode conversion under DB2 V8
(in response to Sysdba AHE)
A-ha. Gotcha. If that's it then sorry, can't help; we're EBCDIC CCSID(285)
and not about to change. Which, if the Redcoats had been more successful,
most of North America would be too. Oooh, controversy!

Cheers,


Raymond Bell
Database Administrator

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Of Sysdba AHE
Sent: 21 December 2006 16:27
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Subject: Re: [DB2-L] Unicode conversion under DB2 V8



Jack,

Do you mean you want to change ("correct") your system's EBCDIC CCSID? If so
then your term "Unicode conversion" is confusing.

IBM support will provide the necessary temporary fix and lots of guidance to
do this under V7, and have done so for many customers already. Have they
said that they will do so under V8 CM? I've certainly never heard of anyone
doing it.

Regards
Neil Price
TNT Express



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jack fernicola

Re: Unicode conversion under DB2 V8
(in response to Raymond Bell)
Yes, I've should have said changing the EBCDIC CCSID values defined to our Databases.

I'm only interested If anyone has tried to do this under CM in V8.

Thanks again,
Jack

"Bell, Raymond" <[login to unmask email]> wrote:
A-ha. Gotcha. If that's it then sorry, can't help; we're EBCDIC CCSID(285) and not about to change. Which, if the Redcoats had been more successful, most of North America would be too. Oooh, controversy!

Cheers,


Raymond Bell
Database Administrator


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Sent: 21 December 2006 16:27
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Subject: Re: [DB2-L] Unicode conversion under DB2 V8




Jack,

Do you mean you want to change ("correct") your system's EBCDIC CCSID? If so then your term "Unicode conversion" is confusing.

IBM support will provide the necessary temporary fix and lots of guidance to do this under V7, and have done so for many customers already. Have they said that they will do so under V8 CM? I've certainly never heard of anyone doing it.

Regards
Neil Price
TNT Express

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