Any DB2 function translates French into English????

Raj Ghose

Any DB2 function translates French into English????
2007-11-24 22:53:25 (F-Secure Anti-Virus 7.20
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function in DB2 that will do it?

Your help will be much apprecaited!

Raj



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John McKown

Re: Any DB2 function translates French into English????
(in response to Raj Ghose)
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> function in DB2 that will do it?
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> Your help will be much apprecaited!
>
> Raj

I am not very DB2 literate. But I sincerely doubt that a language
translation function exists. What I would consider for something like
this is a SOA application. Perhaps to a Web translation engine such as
BabelFish. I still don't really trust automated translations,
personally. They may work well on a word by word translation, but idioms
are likely to end up being very wrong. I hope I don't offend anybody,
but in English, saying "How do I get a cab?" is OK. But translated
exactly into some variants of Spanish results in an obscene implication.
("get" implying "have intercourse with").

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Peter Vanroose

Re: Any DB2 function translates French into English????
(in response to John McKown)
If you need a word-by-word translation, I would suggest you create a
two-column table, PK containing the French words, 2nd column containing
the English translations. Then the DB2 function is essentially a (left)
join with this table.

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John McKown

Re: Any DB2 function translates French into English????
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> English????
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> If you need a word-by-word translation, I would suggest you create a
> two-column table, PK containing the French words, 2nd column
> containing
> the English translations. Then the DB2 function is
> essentially a (left)
> join with this table.
>
> -- Peter Vanroose

That may be possible. But as an example of a problem, what is the French
word for "tear"? Oh, and is that word as in "I will tear open my
presents at Christmas." or "I shed a tear when I heard of your
accident." ? Context is essential in English. I don't know about other
languages. Homographs (different words which are spelled idendically)
are a major problem in English.

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Raj Ghose

Re: Any DB2 function translates French into English????
(in response to John McKown)
Hi John,
Many thanks for your reply. At least now I can confidently say that
there no such function. Somebody in the management had a hunch that there
was such a function. So I wanted to be doubly sure before I give my verdict

Thanks!

Raj

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Dee Reins

Re: Any DB2 function translates French into English????
(in response to Raj Ghose)
That should have been your first clue "Somebody in the Management".
Half of the English language is derived from the French language, does
that count?

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Hi John,
Many thanks for your reply. At least now I can confidently say
that
there no such function. Somebody in the management had a hunch that
there
was such a function. So I wanted to be doubly sure before I give my
verdict

Thanks!

Raj

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Brian Bear

Re: Any DB2 function translates French into English????
(in response to Dee Reins)
Oui or is it Wii?

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That should have been your first clue "Somebody in the Management".
Half of the English language is derived from the French language, does
that count?

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Subject: Re: [DB2-L] Any DB2 function translates French into English????

Hi John,
Many thanks for your reply. At least now I can confidently say
that
there no such function. Somebody in the management had a hunch that
there
was such a function. So I wanted to be doubly sure before I give my
verdict

Thanks!

Raj

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Phil Grainger

Re: Any DB2 function translates French into English????
(in response to Brian Bear)
and I imagine all the English folks with young kids just LOVE the fact that the wavy games thingy is called a "wee"...!! :)

Phil G
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Oui or is it Wii?

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That should have been your first clue "Somebody in the Management".
Half of the English language is derived from the French language, does
that count?

-----Original Message-----
From: DB2 Data Base Discussion List [mailto:[login to unmask email] On
Behalf Of Raj Ghose
Sent: Monday, December 03, 2007 12:35 PM
To: [login to unmask email]
Subject: Re: [DB2-L] Any DB2 function translates French into English????

Hi John,
Many thanks for your reply. At least now I can confidently say
that
there no such function. Somebody in the management had a hunch that
there
was such a function. So I wanted to be doubly sure before I give my
verdict

Thanks!

Raj

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