[admin]

Cathy Taddei

[admin]
While we're bugging our administrators, how about putting the old text
back in the DB2-L tag that read:


To unsubscribe, go to the archives and home page at
http://www.idugdb2-l.org/archives/db2-l.html. From that page select
"Join or Leave the list".


Thanks,
Cathy


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Avram Friedman

Re: [admin]
(in response to Cathy Taddei)
I am guessing the following comment will not win me a lot of supporters but
given that has never stopped me before here goes.

My preference is to see DB2 issues discussed on the list ... administrative
issues only as required. The list administrators have usually been responsive
to concerns sent to them. They do not need to be publicly discussed over
and over again.

My understanding is adminstrative concerns should be sent to
[login to unmask email]
and not publicly posted on the list.

Best Wishes
Avram Friedman

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Mark Labby

Re: [admin]
(in response to Avram Friedman)
Cathy,

I will respond to this one. The links to the archives were replaced with
links through the main IDUG website so that as future changes to the list
servers are made, the list members are isolated from disruptions. The
archives and other list admin pages will be moving behind more security,
so those direct links will, at some point, no longer work.

Mark Labby
IDUG Web Committee




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Thanks,
Cathy

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Cathy Taddei

Re: [admin]
(in response to Mark Labby)
Thanks, Mark. The main point of my comment (which I neglected to
elucidate) is that it would be helpful if instructions on how to
unsubscribe, using that word, were prominent in the tag. It makes it
easier to help people who don't know how to unsubscribe if we can simply
point them to the tag. I think the word "unsubscribe" packs a lot more
punch than "delivery preferences". Just my $.02, I understand it is
difficult to craft an informative yet economical tag line.

Avram, I wholly agree that simple admin requests should be sent to the
appropriate email address. However, I have been reading this list for 7
years, and I was not aware that this topic had been "publicly discussed
over and over again." Whether it has or not, I believe that changes to
the way the list is administered are fair game for open discussion. Use
of the [admin] keyword in the subject allows those not interested in
list administration to filter them out. I suppose we could add MORE
keywords, such as [could be considered trivial]. But then who is going
to take the time to write guidelines for the importance scale? I, too,
prefer on-topic, meaningful dialog on the list, but I also think that
the best way to manage listserve noise is to not add to it.

Thanks,
Cathy

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Subject: Re: [admin]



Cathy,

I will respond to this one. The links to the archives were replaced
with links through the main IDUG website so that as future changes to
the list servers are made, the list members are isolated from
disruptions. The archives and other list admin pages will be moving
behind more security, so those direct links will, at some point, no
longer work.

Mark Labby
IDUG Web Committee < http://www.idug.org/ >




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While we're bugging our administrators, how about putting the old text
back in the DB2-L tag that read:

To unsubscribe, go to the archives and home page at
http://www.idugdb2-l.org/archives/db2-l.html
< http://www.idugdb2-l.org/archives/db2-l.html > . From that page select
"Join or Leave the list".

Thanks,
Cathy


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< http://www.idug.org/lsidug > under the Listserv tab. While at the site,
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