downloading fixes from CA ?

Chris Hoelscher

downloading fixes from CA ?
i am curious as to how others perform this chore.

if i want to download a small number (4) fixes, i seem to have 3 choices:

1) download the 4 - receive and apply check - look for prereq failures, go
get those prereqs - go through the cycle over and over until all fixes and
needed prereqs are installed
2) create a package of the 4 - perhaps hundreds of fixes - receiving them
all (most are already there) and applying what needs to be applied
3) create a package of the 4 - and try to manually deleting the fixes
already installed

or is there a process within CA similar to IBM where site-specific
information can be introduced to the required fix-download process???

thanks in advance for any information,

Chris Hoelscher
Senior IDMS & DB2 Database Administrator
Humana Inc
502-476-2538
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Phil Grainger

Re: downloading fixes from CA ?
(in response to Chris Hoelscher)
Hi Chris

So far as I understand it, your last statement is the way to go (option
4?)

Supportconnect, if it is told what your CURRENT maintenance level is,
will build you a package pf PTFs (and pre-reqs and co-reqs) that you
don't already have

Our tech support folks will be able to talk you through the process

Phil Grainger
CA
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i am curious as to how others perform this chore.

if i want to download a small number (4) fixes, i seem to have 3
choices:

1) download the 4 - receive and apply check - look for prereq failures,
go get those prereqs - go through the cycle over and over until all
fixes and needed prereqs are installed
2) create a package of the 4 - perhaps hundreds of fixes - receiving
them all (most are already there) and applying what needs to be applied
3) create a package of the 4 - and try to manually deleting the fixes
already installed

or is there a process within CA similar to IBM where site-specific
information can be introduced to the required fix-download process???

thanks in advance for any information,

Chris Hoelscher
Senior IDMS & DB2 Database Administrator
Humana Inc
502-476-2538
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Mike Kalena

Re: downloading fixes from CA ?
(in response to Chris Hoelscher)
Chris,



We try downloading the one fix and applying it via the web page. If we
see there are lots of pre-reqs & co-reqs that we don't have, we open an
issue and ask support to set it up for us to download from the FTP site.
When they do that it includes all the related fixes.



Our latest approach has been to download and receive all PTFs from the
PSP buckets, Hold Data, and PTF files every Tuesday as that's when
they're updated.



We're doing this as we're heavy users of Detector and have been working
thru lots of issues. Having the current maintenance available has saved
us lots of time.



Hope this helps.



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i am curious as to how others perform this chore.

if i want to download a small number (4) fixes, i seem to have 3
choices:

1) download the 4 - receive and apply check - look for prereq failures,
go get those prereqs - go through the cycle over and over until all
fixes and needed prereqs are installed
2) create a package of the 4 - perhaps hundreds of fixes - receiving
them all (most are already there) and applying what needs to be applied
3) create a package of the 4 - and try to manually deleting the fixes
already installed

or is there a process within CA similar to IBM where site-specific
information can be introduced to the required fix-download process???

thanks in advance for any information,

Chris Hoelscher
Senior IDMS & DB2 Database Administrator
Humana Inc
502-476-2538
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Chris Hoelscher

Re: downloading fixes from CA ?
(in response to Phil Grainger)
Phil - have i been playing with supportconnect its entire existance and was
never aware that it had the ability to accept my CSI in the package
building process? shame on me then


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Carol Anne Sutfin

Re: downloading fixes from CA ?
(in response to Mike Kalena)
Chris,

I have attempted option 4 in the past. It was not pretty.
I did not always get sent all of the PTFs needed and would be required to
download more.

I now use option 1. It may take more time but I have better control about
what gets downloaded and applied not CA.

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Regions Financial Corp.
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i am curious as to how others perform this chore.

if i want to download a small number (4) fixes, i seem to have 3 choices:

1) download the 4 - receive and apply check - look for prereq failures, go
get those prereqs - go through the cycle over and over until all fixes and
needed prereqs are installed
2) create a package of the 4 - perhaps hundreds of fixes - receiving them
all (most are already there) and applying what needs to be applied
3) create a package of the 4 - and try to manually deleting the fixes
already installed

or is there a process within CA similar to IBM where site-specific
information can be introduced to the required fix-download process???

thanks in advance for any information,

Chris Hoelscher
Senior IDMS & DB2 Database Administrator
Humana Inc
502-476-2538
[login to unmask email]





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Chris Hoelscher

Re: downloading fixes from CA ?
(in response to Carol Anne Sutfin)

Thanks Carol - i did option 1 yesterday and it took me 10 iterations to get
all prereqs for 4 fixes - the other thing i lose with option 1 is that i i
end up with conditional PREREQs for products that I do not own - a PTF
package seems to be aware of what conditional PREREQs can be removed based
up my licenses - although perhaps not, but i had never had this issue with
PTF packages ...

i simply do not have the system time to be load fixes weekly (or weakly) -
quarterly is the best i can get

Chris Hoelscher
Senior IDMS & DB2 Database Administrator
Humana Inc
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