[DB2 for z/OS V8] REORG Utility BUILD2 Phase

Jorge Martelanz

[DB2 for z/OS V8] REORG Utility BUILD2 Phase
Hi
Does somebody have more information of what "serviceability
enhancement" APAR PK78611 (http://www-
01.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?uid=swg1PK78611) provides?
Thanks
Jorge

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Roy Boxwell

Re: [DB2 for z/OS V8] REORG Utility BUILD2 Phase
(in response to Jorge Martelanz)
IBM??



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Hi
Does somebody have more information of what "serviceability
enhancement" APAR PK78611 (http://www-
01.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?uid=swg1PK78611) provides?
Thanks
Jorge

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Jorge Martelanz

Re: [DB2 for z/OS V8] REORG Utility BUILD2 Phase
(in response to Roy Boxwell)
Well... as many IBM Lab guys are watching this list, that's why I posted my
question here. If you take a look at the "official" IBM description of the APAR,
you will understand why I am asking for some clarification. I can (and
probabbly will) open an informational PMR, but sometimes this list provides
faster responses. Thanks for your suggestion.
Jorge

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Roy Boxwell

Re: [DB2 for z/OS V8] REORG Utility BUILD2 Phase
(in response to Jorge Martelanz)
I was being a bit facetious in my answer as I have also seen lots of APARs
like that and it bugs me to! Quite why IBM are so secretive about these
things is a mystery to me. I think the DB2 world would positively *like*
the idea of help/improvement of tracing or dumps or what have you but
instead you get a mysterious apar with useless text that you have to
blindly install for apparently no reason.



Roy Boxwell
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Well... as many IBM Lab guys are watching this list, that's why I posted
my
question here. If you take a look at the "official" IBM description of the
APAR,
you will understand why I am asking for some clarification. I can (and
probabbly will) open an informational PMR, but sometimes this list
provides
faster responses. Thanks for your suggestion.
Jorge

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Christian Michel

Re: [DB2 for z/OS V8] REORG Utility BUILD2 Phase
(in response to Roy Boxwell)
Jorge & Roy,

First of all: Happy New Year!

When we mark APARs as "Serviceability enhancements", they are exactly
that. Those APARs would not contain any new end user functionality or
performance changes but provide additional diagnostic information that can
be activated and used by L2 or L3 for specific problems that are very
difficult to diagnose otherwise. Such diagnostic functions are not any
committed functionality, they can be added, changed or removed by
development at will, if we would start to document them, then we would
have to support that kind of functions as well and could not easily change
or even remove them later on.

I don't think you received a manual for all the CAN bus commands of your
car electronics when you bought it or had it in the shop when they flashed
a new version ;-). I bitterly complained with my car maker when they
changed the "external" behavior of the initialization/checkup procedure of
my curve light with such a software update and I thought my head lights
were now broken! They didn't understand my concerns, though, they still
live in a totally different world. Don't answer on that, I don't want this
thread to go off-topic...

Mit freundlichen Grüßen / Kind regards
Christian Michel

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I was being a bit facetious in my answer as I have also seen lots of APARs
like that and it bugs me to! Quite why IBM are so secretive about these
things is a mystery to me. I think the DB2 world would positively *like*
the idea of help/improvement of tracing or dumps or what have you but
instead you get a mysterious apar with useless text that you have to
blindly install for apparently no reason.



Roy Boxwell
SOFTWARE ENGINEERING GMBH
-Product Development-
Robert-Stolz-Straße 5
40470 Düsseldorf/Germany
Tel. +49 (0)211 96149-675
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Well... as many IBM Lab guys are watching this list, that's why I posted
my
question here. If you take a look at the "official" IBM description of the
APAR,
you will understand why I am asking for some clarification. I can (and
probabbly will) open an informational PMR, but sometimes this list
provides
faster responses. Thanks for your suggestion.
Jorge

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Jorge Martelanz

Re: [DB2 for z/OS V8] REORG Utility BUILD2 Phase
(in response to Christian Michel)
Thanks Christian and Happy New Year for you too!
I was expecting that answer :-), but, you know... I come from the times when
you had to use the crank to start the car (punched cards, /360, etc, etc.)
In any case that will clarify the issue for the guys upstairs.
Take care
Jorge

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