z/os db2 v8 to v9 conversion roadblock - what am I being so dense about ?

Bruce Lightsey

z/os db2 v8 to v9 conversion roadblock - what am I being so dense about ?
I have DB2 v9 installed in my playground lpar and all works nicely there (
z/os v1.9, etc ).

Now I am trying to convert the first subsystem on one of the development
lpars and when I get to "Migration step 17: Start DB2 Version 9.1" I
continually get :


DSNR001I -DB8T RESTART INITIATED
DSNR045E -DB8T DSNRRPRC DB2 SUBSYSTEM IS STARTING 634
AND
IT WAS NOT STARTED IN A
PREVIOUS RELEASE WITH THE FALLBACK SPE APPLIED.
FALLBACK SPE APAR: PK11129
NEW RELEASE LEVEL: 0000D450
KNOWN LEVEL(S): 0000D3010000D3250000D35000000000000
IEF450I DB8TMSTR DB8TMSTR - ABEND=S04F U0000 REASON=00000000


My system programmer tells me that all of the "stuff" associated with
PK11129 is applied and I've re-assembled/linked everything for the
subsystem for both v8 and v9.

We have an open log with IBM, but in the meantime - can anyone tell me what
I may be forgetting to do or what IBM forgot to put into the migration
guide ?


Thanks,

Bruce Lightsey
Mississippi Dept. of Information Technology Services
301 N. Lamar St., Suite 508
Jackson, Ms 39201-1495
(601) 359-2644 voice (601) 359-1394 fax
www.its.ms.gov www.ms.gov
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Cuneyt Goksu

Re: z/os db2 v8 to v9 conversion roadblock - what am I being so dense about ?
(in response to Bruce Lightsey)
Did you recycle your V8 after applied fallback ?

Cuneyt

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From: Bruce Lightsey <[login to unmask email]>
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 2010 09:14:35
To: <[login to unmask email]>
Subject: [DB2-L] z/os db2 v8 to v9 conversion roadblock - what am I being so dense about ?

I have DB2 v9 installed in my playground lpar and all works nicely there (
z/os v1.9, etc ).

Now I am trying to convert the first subsystem on one of the development
lpars and when I get to "Migration step 17: Start DB2 Version 9.1" I
continually get :


DSNR001I -DB8T RESTART INITIATED
DSNR045E -DB8T DSNRRPRC DB2 SUBSYSTEM IS STARTING 634
AND
IT WAS NOT STARTED IN A
PREVIOUS RELEASE WITH THE FALLBACK SPE APPLIED.
FALLBACK SPE APAR: PK11129
NEW RELEASE LEVEL: 0000D450
KNOWN LEVEL(S): 0000D3010000D3250000D35000000000000
IEF450I DB8TMSTR DB8TMSTR - ABEND=S04F U0000 REASON=00000000


My system programmer tells me that all of the "stuff" associated with
PK11129 is applied and I've re-assembled/linked everything for the
subsystem for both v8 and v9.

We have an open log with IBM, but in the meantime - can anyone tell me what
I may be forgetting to do or what IBM forgot to put into the migration
guide ?


Thanks,

Bruce Lightsey
Mississippi Dept. of Information Technology Services
301 N. Lamar St., Suite 508
Jackson, Ms 39201-1495
(601) 359-2644 voice (601) 359-1394 fax
www.its.ms.gov www.ms.gov
mailto:[login to unmask email]

_____________________________________________________________________

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_____________________________________________________________________

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there is probably one near you!
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_____________________________________________________________________

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Phil Grainger

Re: z/os db2 v8 to v9 conversion roadblock - what am I being so dense about ?
(in response to Cuneyt Goksu)
It's been a long time since I did it, but you can (under your v8 subsystem,
as v9 won't start) do a DIAGNOSE DISPLAY MEPL to make sure the ptfs were
applied to the libraries that DB2 is using and not to somewhere else

Phil Grainger

Grainger Database Solutions Ltd

-----Original Message-----
From: IDUG DB2-L [mailto:[login to unmask email] On Behalf Of Bruce Lightsey
Sent: 22 January 2010 15:15
To: [login to unmask email]
Subject: [DB2-L] z/os db2 v8 to v9 conversion roadblock - what am I being so
dense about ?

I have DB2 v9 installed in my playground lpar and all works nicely there (
z/os v1.9, etc ).

Now I am trying to convert the first subsystem on one of the development
lpars and when I get to "Migration step 17: Start DB2 Version 9.1" I
continually get :


DSNR001I -DB8T RESTART INITIATED
DSNR045E -DB8T DSNRRPRC DB2 SUBSYSTEM IS STARTING 634
AND
IT WAS NOT STARTED IN A
PREVIOUS RELEASE WITH THE FALLBACK SPE APPLIED.
FALLBACK SPE APAR: PK11129
NEW RELEASE LEVEL: 0000D450
KNOWN LEVEL(S): 0000D3010000D3250000D35000000000000
IEF450I DB8TMSTR DB8TMSTR - ABEND=S04F U0000 REASON=00000000


My system programmer tells me that all of the "stuff" associated with
PK11129 is applied and I've re-assembled/linked everything for the
subsystem for both v8 and v9.

We have an open log with IBM, but in the meantime - can anyone tell me what
I may be forgetting to do or what IBM forgot to put into the migration
guide ?


Thanks,

Bruce Lightsey
Mississippi Dept. of Information Technology Services
301 N. Lamar St., Suite 508
Jackson, Ms 39201-1495
(601) 359-2644 voice (601) 359-1394 fax
www.its.ms.gov www.ms.gov
mailto:[login to unmask email]

_____________________________________________________________________

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_____________________________________________________________________

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Groups,
there is probably one near you!
Regional User Groups are your local connection to the Worldwide DB2 User
Community
_____________________________________________________________________

If you need to change settings, http://www.idug.org/cgi-bin/wa?A0=DB2-L is
the home of IDUG's DB2-L

_____________________________________________________________________

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_____________________________________________________________________

http://www.idug.org/rug/index.html - with almost 150 IDUG Regional User Groups,
there is probably one near you!
Regional User Groups are your local connection to the Worldwide DB2 User Community
_____________________________________________________________________

If you need to change settings, http://www.idug.org/cgi-bin/wa?A0=DB2-L is the home of IDUG's DB2-L

Mick P Graley

Re: z/os db2 v8 to v9 conversion roadblock - what am I being so dense about ?
(in response to Phil Grainger)
Bruce,

Maybe the code that is applied to your SMP/E target zone hasn't been rolled
out to the "live" SDSNLOAD library.
I would compare the "live" and SMP/E target SDSNLOAD libraries (if you
don't really run off the SMP/E target libraries - we don't).

IBM will possibly ask you to run a DIAGNOSE DISPLAY MEPL utility to check
the level of your modules.

Good Luck,

Mick.


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From: Bruce Lightsey <[login to unmask email]>

To: [login to unmask email]

Date: 22/01/2010 15:40

Subject: [DB2-L] z/os db2 v8 to v9 conversion roadblock - what am I being so dense about ?






I have DB2 v9 installed in my playground lpar and all works nicely there (
z/os v1.9, etc ).

Now I am trying to convert the first subsystem on one of the development
lpars and when I get to "Migration step 17: Start DB2 Version 9.1" I
continually get :


DSNR001I -DB8T RESTART INITIATED
DSNR045E -DB8T DSNRRPRC DB2 SUBSYSTEM IS STARTING 634
AND
IT WAS NOT STARTED IN A
PREVIOUS RELEASE WITH THE FALLBACK SPE APPLIED.
FALLBACK SPE APAR: PK11129
NEW RELEASE LEVEL: 0000D450
KNOWN LEVEL(S): 0000D3010000D3250000D35000000000000
IEF450I DB8TMSTR DB8TMSTR - ABEND=S04F U0000 REASON=00000000


My system programmer tells me that all of the "stuff" associated with
PK11129 is applied and I've re-assembled/linked everything for the
subsystem for both v8 and v9.

We have an open log with IBM, but in the meantime - can anyone tell me what
I may be forgetting to do or what IBM forgot to put into the migration
guide ?


Thanks,

Bruce Lightsey
Mississippi Dept. of Information Technology Services
301 N. Lamar St., Suite 508
Jackson, Ms 39201-1495
(601) 359-2644 voice (601) 359-1394 fax
www.its.ms.gov www.ms.gov.
mailto:[login to unmask email]

_____________________________________________________________________

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Groups,
there is probably one near you!
Regional User Groups are your local connection to the Worldwide DB2 User
Community
_____________________________________________________________________

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the home of IDUG's DB2-L

Mick P Graley

Re: z/os db2 v8 to v9 conversion roadblock - what am I being so dense about ?
(in response to Mick P Graley)
Bruce,

I've just looked at the APAR and there's also a HOLD action to re-assemble
and link DSNHDECP - did you do that also?

Mick.


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From: Phil Grainger <[login to unmask email]>

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Date: 22/01/2010 16:09

Subject: Re: [DB2-L] z/os db2 v8 to v9 conversion roadblock - what am I being so dense about ?






It's been a long time since I did it, but you can (under your v8 subsystem,
as v9 won't start) do a DIAGNOSE DISPLAY MEPL to make sure the ptfs were
applied to the libraries that DB2 is using and not to somewhere else

Phil Grainger

Grainger Database Solutions Ltd

-----Original Message-----
From: IDUG DB2-L [mailto:[login to unmask email] On Behalf Of Bruce Lightsey
Sent: 22 January 2010 15:15
To: [login to unmask email]
Subject: [DB2-L] z/os db2 v8 to v9 conversion roadblock - what am I being
so
dense about ?

I have DB2 v9 installed in my playground lpar and all works nicely there (
z/os v1.9, etc ).

Now I am trying to convert the first subsystem on one of the development
lpars and when I get to "Migration step 17: Start DB2 Version 9.1" I
continually get :


DSNR001I -DB8T RESTART INITIATED
DSNR045E -DB8T DSNRRPRC DB2 SUBSYSTEM IS STARTING 634
AND
IT WAS NOT STARTED IN A
PREVIOUS RELEASE WITH THE FALLBACK SPE APPLIED.
FALLBACK SPE APAR: PK11129
NEW RELEASE LEVEL: 0000D450
KNOWN LEVEL(S): 0000D3010000D3250000D35000000000000
IEF450I DB8TMSTR DB8TMSTR - ABEND=S04F U0000 REASON=00000000


My system programmer tells me that all of the "stuff" associated with
PK11129 is applied and I've re-assembled/linked everything for the
subsystem for both v8 and v9.

We have an open log with IBM, but in the meantime - can anyone tell me what
I may be forgetting to do or what IBM forgot to put into the migration
guide ?


Thanks,

Bruce Lightsey
Mississippi Dept. of Information Technology Services
301 N. Lamar St., Suite 508
Jackson, Ms 39201-1495
(601) 359-2644 voice (601) 359-1394 fax
www.its.ms.gov www.ms.gov.
mailto:[login to unmask email]

_____________________________________________________________________

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_____________________________________________________________________

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Groups,
there is probably one near you!
Regional User Groups are your local connection to the Worldwide DB2 User
Community
_____________________________________________________________________

If you need to change settings, http://www.idug.org/cgi-bin/wa?A0=DB2-L is
the home of IDUG's DB2-L

_____________________________________________________________________

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http://IDUG.ORG/NA *
_____________________________________________________________________

http://www.idug.org/rug/index.html - with almost 150 IDUG Regional User
Groups,
there is probably one near you!
Regional User Groups are your local connection to the Worldwide DB2 User
Community
_____________________________________________________________________

If you need to change settings, http://www.idug.org/cgi-bin/wa?A0=DB2-L is
the home of IDUG's DB2-L

Bruce Lightsey

Re: z/os db2 v8 to v9 conversion roadblock - what am I being so dense about ?
(in response to Mick P Graley)
1) Yes - I have reassembled everything DSNHDECP included ;
2) Yes I have stopped the subsystem and restarted it several times ( and
attempted to restart under v9, too ) ;
3) SMP/E shows that the various modules were applied to the correct
libraries but DIAGNOSE DISPLAY MEPL doesn't show the maintenance to be
present ( and I have called in outside sets of eyes to verify that the
libraries involved are, indeed, the same ones ) ;
4) the only thing that hasn't happened is an actual IPL of the lpar - the
systems folks say that the various SET commands have it in the state needed

Thanks,
Bruce




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I've just looked at the APAR and there's also a HOLD action to re-assemble
and link DSNHDECP - did you do that also?

Mick.


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Date: 22/01/2010 16:09


Subject: Re: [DB2-L] z/os db2 v8 to v9 conversion roadblock - what am
I being so dense about ?






It's been a long time since I did it, but you can (under your v8 subsystem,
as v9 won't start) do a DIAGNOSE DISPLAY MEPL to make sure the ptfs were
applied to the libraries that DB2 is using and not to somewhere else

Phil Grainger

Grainger Database Solutions Ltd

-----Original Message-----
From: IDUG DB2-L [mailto:[login to unmask email] On Behalf Of Bruce Lightsey
Sent: 22 January 2010 15:15
To: [login to unmask email]
Subject: [DB2-L] z/os db2 v8 to v9 conversion roadblock - what am I being
so
dense about ?

I have DB2 v9 installed in my playground lpar and all works nicely there (
z/os v1.9, etc ).

Now I am trying to convert the first subsystem on one of the development
lpars and when I get to "Migration step 17: Start DB2 Version 9.1" I
continually get :


DSNR001I -DB8T RESTART INITIATED
DSNR045E -DB8T DSNRRPRC DB2 SUBSYSTEM IS STARTING 634
AND
IT WAS NOT STARTED IN A
PREVIOUS RELEASE WITH THE FALLBACK SPE APPLIED.
FALLBACK SPE APAR: PK11129
NEW RELEASE LEVEL: 0000D450
KNOWN LEVEL(S): 0000D3010000D3250000D35000000000000
IEF450I DB8TMSTR DB8TMSTR - ABEND=S04F U0000 REASON=00000000


My system programmer tells me that all of the "stuff" associated with
PK11129 is applied and I've re-assembled/linked everything for the
subsystem for both v8 and v9.

We have an open log with IBM, but in the meantime - can anyone tell me what
I may be forgetting to do or what IBM forgot to put into the migration
guide ?


Thanks,

Bruce Lightsey
Mississippi Dept. of Information Technology Services
301 N. Lamar St., Suite 508
Jackson, Ms 39201-1495
(601) 359-2644 voice (601) 359-1394 fax
www.its.ms.gov www.ms.gov.
mailto:[login to unmask email]

_____________________________________________________________________

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_____________________________________________________________________

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Groups,
there is probably one near you!
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Community
_____________________________________________________________________

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the home of IDUG's DB2-L

_____________________________________________________________________

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http://IDUG.ORG/NA *
_____________________________________________________________________

http://www.idug.org/rug/index.html - with almost 150 IDUG Regional User
Groups,
there is probably one near you!
Regional User Groups are your local connection to the Worldwide DB2 User
Community
_____________________________________________________________________

If you need to change settings, http://www.idug.org/cgi-bin/wa?A0=DB2-L is
the home of IDUG's DB2-L

Jeff Frazier

Re: z/os db2 v8 to v9 conversion roadblock - what am I being so dense about ?
(in response to Bruce Lightsey)
Do you run out of SMPE libs?
If not did you copy the smpe libs to the libs you use to start DB2 up?
If the libs are in linklist has it been refreshed?

HTHs
Jeff




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1) Yes - I have reassembled everything DSNHDECP included ;
2) Yes I have stopped the subsystem and restarted it several times ( and
attempted to restart under v9, too ) ;
3) SMP/E shows that the various modules were applied to the correct
libraries but DIAGNOSE DISPLAY MEPL doesn't show the maintenance to be
present ( and I have called in outside sets of eyes to verify that the
libraries involved are, indeed, the same ones ) ;
4) the only thing that hasn't happened is an actual IPL of the lpar - the
systems folks say that the various SET commands have it in the state
needed

Thanks,
Bruce




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I've just looked at the APAR and there's also a HOLD action to re-assemble
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Mick.


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Date: 22/01/2010 16:09


Subject: Re: [DB2-L] z/os db2 v8 to v9 conversion roadblock - what am
I being so dense about ?






It's been a long time since I did it, but you can (under your v8
subsystem,
as v9 won't start) do a DIAGNOSE DISPLAY MEPL to make sure the ptfs were
applied to the libraries that DB2 is using and not to somewhere else

Phil Grainger

Grainger Database Solutions Ltd

-----Original Message-----
From: IDUG DB2-L [mailto:[login to unmask email] On Behalf Of Bruce Lightsey
Sent: 22 January 2010 15:15
To: [login to unmask email]
Subject: [DB2-L] z/os db2 v8 to v9 conversion roadblock - what am I being
so
dense about ?

I have DB2 v9 installed in my playground lpar and all works nicely there (
z/os v1.9, etc ).

Now I am trying to convert the first subsystem on one of the development
lpars and when I get to "Migration step 17: Start DB2 Version 9.1" I
continually get :


DSNR001I -DB8T RESTART INITIATED
DSNR045E -DB8T DSNRRPRC DB2 SUBSYSTEM IS STARTING 634
AND
IT WAS NOT STARTED IN A
PREVIOUS RELEASE WITH THE FALLBACK SPE APPLIED.
FALLBACK SPE APAR: PK11129
NEW RELEASE LEVEL: 0000D450
KNOWN LEVEL(S): 0000D3010000D3250000D35000000000000
IEF450I DB8TMSTR DB8TMSTR - ABEND=S04F U0000 REASON=00000000


My system programmer tells me that all of the "stuff" associated with
PK11129 is applied and I've re-assembled/linked everything for the
subsystem for both v8 and v9.

We have an open log with IBM, but in the meantime - can anyone tell me
what
I may be forgetting to do or what IBM forgot to put into the migration
guide ?


Thanks,

Bruce Lightsey
Mississippi Dept. of Information Technology Services
301 N. Lamar St., Suite 508
Jackson, Ms 39201-1495
(601) 359-2644 voice (601) 359-1394 fax
www.its.ms.gov www.ms.gov.
mailto:[login to unmask email]

_____________________________________________________________________

* IDUG North America * Tampa, Florida, * May 10-14 2010 *
http://IDUG.ORG/NA *
_____________________________________________________________________

http://www.idug.org/rug/index.html - with almost 150 IDUG Regional User
Groups,
there is probably one near you!
Regional User Groups are your local connection to the Worldwide DB2 User
Community
_____________________________________________________________________

If you need to change settings, http://www.idug.org/cgi-bin/wa?A0=DB2-L is
the home of IDUG's DB2-L

_____________________________________________________________________

* IDUG North America * Tampa, Florida, * May 10-14 2010 *
http://IDUG.ORG/NA *
_____________________________________________________________________

http://www.idug.org/rug/index.html - with almost 150 IDUG Regional User
Groups,
there is probably one near you!
Regional User Groups are your local connection to the Worldwide DB2 User
Community
_____________________________________________________________________

If you need to change settings, http://www.idug.org/cgi-bin/wa?A0=DB2-L is
the home of IDUG's DB2-L




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Irwin Deutsch

Re: z/os db2 v8 to v9 conversion roadblock - what am I being so dense about ?
(in response to Jeff Frazier)
The ERLY code gets installed ONLY at IPL. So you need an IPL! (SET doesn't
work there.)

Irwin

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Phil Grainger

Re: z/os db2 v8 to v9 conversion roadblock - what am I being so dense about ?
(in response to Irwin Deutsch)
Well, if MEPL says it's not there then it isn't!

Not much help, but that is your problem

Phil Grainger

Grainger Database Solutions Ltd

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Sent: 22 January 2010 17:37
To: [login to unmask email]
Subject: Re: [DB2-L] z/os db2 v8 to v9 conversion roadblock - what am I
being so dense about ?

1) Yes - I have reassembled everything DSNHDECP included ;
2) Yes I have stopped the subsystem and restarted it several times ( and
attempted to restart under v9, too ) ;
3) SMP/E shows that the various modules were applied to the correct
libraries but DIAGNOSE DISPLAY MEPL doesn't show the maintenance to be
present ( and I have called in outside sets of eyes to verify that the
libraries involved are, indeed, the same ones ) ;
4) the only thing that hasn't happened is an actual IPL of the lpar - the
systems folks say that the various SET commands have it in the state needed

Thanks,
Bruce




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I've just looked at the APAR and there's also a HOLD action to re-assemble
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Date: 22/01/2010 16:09


Subject: Re: [DB2-L] z/os db2 v8 to v9 conversion roadblock - what am
I being so dense about ?






It's been a long time since I did it, but you can (under your v8 subsystem,
as v9 won't start) do a DIAGNOSE DISPLAY MEPL to make sure the ptfs were
applied to the libraries that DB2 is using and not to somewhere else

Phil Grainger

Grainger Database Solutions Ltd

-----Original Message-----
From: IDUG DB2-L [mailto:[login to unmask email] On Behalf Of Bruce Lightsey
Sent: 22 January 2010 15:15
To: [login to unmask email]
Subject: [DB2-L] z/os db2 v8 to v9 conversion roadblock - what am I being
so
dense about ?

I have DB2 v9 installed in my playground lpar and all works nicely there (
z/os v1.9, etc ).

Now I am trying to convert the first subsystem on one of the development
lpars and when I get to "Migration step 17: Start DB2 Version 9.1" I
continually get :


DSNR001I -DB8T RESTART INITIATED
DSNR045E -DB8T DSNRRPRC DB2 SUBSYSTEM IS STARTING 634
AND
IT WAS NOT STARTED IN A
PREVIOUS RELEASE WITH THE FALLBACK SPE APPLIED.
FALLBACK SPE APAR: PK11129
NEW RELEASE LEVEL: 0000D450
KNOWN LEVEL(S): 0000D3010000D3250000D35000000000000
IEF450I DB8TMSTR DB8TMSTR - ABEND=S04F U0000 REASON=00000000


My system programmer tells me that all of the "stuff" associated with
PK11129 is applied and I've re-assembled/linked everything for the
subsystem for both v8 and v9.

We have an open log with IBM, but in the meantime - can anyone tell me what
I may be forgetting to do or what IBM forgot to put into the migration
guide ?


Thanks,

Bruce Lightsey
Mississippi Dept. of Information Technology Services
301 N. Lamar St., Suite 508
Jackson, Ms 39201-1495
(601) 359-2644 voice (601) 359-1394 fax
www.its.ms.gov www.ms.gov.
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Barbara Koenen

Re: z/os db2 v8 to v9 conversion roadblock - what am I being so dense about ?
(in response to Phil Grainger)
I thought the commands to load ERLY code without an IPL were new with V9. It was the first time I saw them.

-----Original Message-----
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Subject: Re: [DB2-L] z/os db2 v8 to v9 conversion roadblock - what am I being so dense about ?

1) Yes - I have reassembled everything DSNHDECP included ;
2) Yes I have stopped the subsystem and restarted it several times ( and
attempted to restart under v9, too ) ;
3) SMP/E shows that the various modules were applied to the correct
libraries but DIAGNOSE DISPLAY MEPL doesn't show the maintenance to be
present ( and I have called in outside sets of eyes to verify that the
libraries involved are, indeed, the same ones ) ;
4) the only thing that hasn't happened is an actual IPL of the lpar - the
systems folks say that the various SET commands have it in the state needed

Thanks,
Bruce




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I've just looked at the APAR and there's also a HOLD action to re-assemble
and link DSNHDECP - did you do that also?

Mick.


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Date: 22/01/2010 16:09


Subject: Re: [DB2-L] z/os db2 v8 to v9 conversion roadblock - what am
I being so dense about ?






It's been a long time since I did it, but you can (under your v8 subsystem,
as v9 won't start) do a DIAGNOSE DISPLAY MEPL to make sure the ptfs were
applied to the libraries that DB2 is using and not to somewhere else

Phil Grainger

Grainger Database Solutions Ltd

-----Original Message-----
From: IDUG DB2-L [mailto:[login to unmask email] On Behalf Of Bruce Lightsey
Sent: 22 January 2010 15:15
To: [login to unmask email]
Subject: [DB2-L] z/os db2 v8 to v9 conversion roadblock - what am I being
so
dense about ?

I have DB2 v9 installed in my playground lpar and all works nicely there (
z/os v1.9, etc ).

Now I am trying to convert the first subsystem on one of the development
lpars and when I get to "Migration step 17: Start DB2 Version 9.1" I
continually get :


DSNR001I -DB8T RESTART INITIATED
DSNR045E -DB8T DSNRRPRC DB2 SUBSYSTEM IS STARTING 634
AND
IT WAS NOT STARTED IN A
PREVIOUS RELEASE WITH THE FALLBACK SPE APPLIED.
FALLBACK SPE APAR: PK11129
NEW RELEASE LEVEL: 0000D450
KNOWN LEVEL(S): 0000D3010000D3250000D35000000000000
IEF450I DB8TMSTR DB8TMSTR - ABEND=S04F U0000 REASON=00000000


My system programmer tells me that all of the "stuff" associated with
PK11129 is applied and I've re-assembled/linked everything for the
subsystem for both v8 and v9.

We have an open log with IBM, but in the meantime - can anyone tell me what
I may be forgetting to do or what IBM forgot to put into the migration
guide ?


Thanks,

Bruce Lightsey
Mississippi Dept. of Information Technology Services
301 N. Lamar St., Suite 508
Jackson, Ms 39201-1495
(601) 359-2644 voice (601) 359-1394 fax
www.its.ms.gov www.ms.gov.
mailto:[login to unmask email]

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Chris Hoelscher

Re: z/os db2 v8 to v9 conversion roadblock - what am I being so dense about ?
(in response to Barbara Koenen)
yes it is a new feature - but from what I understand - you MUST do an IPL
the first time to load V9 ERLY code on an LPAR - then, quoteth the raven,
NEVERMORE ....

Chris Hoelscher
Senior IDMS & DB2 Database Administrator
Humana Inc
502-476-2538
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you only need to test the programs that you want to work correctly






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Date:
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Re: [DB2-L] z/os db2 v8 to v9 conversion roadblock - what am I being so
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I thought the commands to load ERLY code without an IPL were new with V9.
It was the first time I saw them.

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Sent: Friday, January 22, 2010 11:37 AM
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Subject: Re: [DB2-L] z/os db2 v8 to v9 conversion roadblock - what am I
being so dense about ?

1) Yes - I have reassembled everything DSNHDECP included ;
2) Yes I have stopped the subsystem and restarted it several times ( and
attempted to restart under v9, too ) ;
3) SMP/E shows that the various modules were applied to the correct
libraries but DIAGNOSE DISPLAY MEPL doesn't show the maintenance to be
present ( and I have called in outside sets of eyes to verify that the
libraries involved are, indeed, the same ones ) ;
4) the only thing that hasn't happened is an actual IPL of the lpar - the
systems folks say that the various SET commands have it in the state
needed

Thanks,
Bruce




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Date: 22/01/2010 16:09


Subject: Re: [DB2-L] z/os db2 v8 to v9 conversion roadblock - what am
I being so dense about ?






It's been a long time since I did it, but you can (under your v8
subsystem,
as v9 won't start) do a DIAGNOSE DISPLAY MEPL to make sure the ptfs were
applied to the libraries that DB2 is using and not to somewhere else

Phil Grainger

Grainger Database Solutions Ltd

-----Original Message-----
From: IDUG DB2-L [mailto:[login to unmask email] On Behalf Of Bruce Lightsey
Sent: 22 January 2010 15:15
To: [login to unmask email]
Subject: [DB2-L] z/os db2 v8 to v9 conversion roadblock - what am I being
so
dense about ?

I have DB2 v9 installed in my playground lpar and all works nicely there (
z/os v1.9, etc ).

Now I am trying to convert the first subsystem on one of the development
lpars and when I get to "Migration step 17: Start DB2 Version 9.1" I
continually get :


DSNR001I -DB8T RESTART INITIATED
DSNR045E -DB8T DSNRRPRC DB2 SUBSYSTEM IS STARTING 634
AND
IT WAS NOT STARTED IN A
PREVIOUS RELEASE WITH THE FALLBACK SPE APPLIED.
FALLBACK SPE APAR: PK11129
NEW RELEASE LEVEL: 0000D450
KNOWN LEVEL(S): 0000D3010000D3250000D35000000000000
IEF450I DB8TMSTR DB8TMSTR - ABEND=S04F U0000 REASON=00000000


My system programmer tells me that all of the "stuff" associated with
PK11129 is applied and I've re-assembled/linked everything for the
subsystem for both v8 and v9.

We have an open log with IBM, but in the meantime - can anyone tell me
what
I may be forgetting to do or what IBM forgot to put into the migration
guide ?


Thanks,

Bruce Lightsey
Mississippi Dept. of Information Technology Services
301 N. Lamar St., Suite 508
Jackson, Ms 39201-1495
(601) 359-2644 voice (601) 359-1394 fax
www.its.ms.gov www.ms.gov.
mailto:[login to unmask email]

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James Campbell

Re: z/os db2 v8 to v9 conversion roadblock - what am I being so dense about ?
(in response to Chris Hoelscher)
If, however, you have UK44315 applied to your V8 early code, you can run DB2 9 under V8
early code. This also enables you run some "future release of DB2 for z/OS". Wonder what
they mean by that :-)

There is also an earlier PTF that is specific for running 9 under V8 early code, but I can't find
it at the moment.

James Campbell

On 23 Jan 2010 at 12:02, Chris Hoelscher wrote:

>
> yes it is a new feature - but from what I understand - you MUST do an IPL the first time to load V9
> ERLY code on an LPAR - then, quoteth the raven, NEVERMORE ....
>
> Chris Hoelscher
> Senior IDMS & DB2 Database Administrator
> Humana Inc
> 502-476-2538
> [login to unmask email]
>
> you only need to test the programs that you want to work correctly
>
>
>
>
>
> From:
> Barbara Koenen <[login to unmask email]>
>
> To:
> [login to unmask email]
>
> Date:
> 01/23/2010 12:49 AM
>
> Subject:
> Re: [DB2-L] z/os db2 v8 to v9 conversion roadblock - what am I being so dense about ?
>
> Sent by:
> IDUG DB2-L <[login to unmask email]>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> I thought the commands to load ERLY code without an IPL were new with
> V9. It was the first time I saw them.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: IDUG DB2-L [mailto:[login to unmask email] On Behalf Of Bruce
> Lightsey
> Sent: Friday, January 22, 2010 11:37 AM
> To: [login to unmask email]
> Subject: Re: [DB2-L] z/os db2 v8 to v9 conversion roadblock - what am I
> being so dense about ?
>
> 1) Yes - I have reassembled everything DSNHDECP included ;
> 2) Yes I have stopped the subsystem and restarted it several times ( and
> attempted to restart under v9, too ) ;
> 3) SMP/E shows that the various modules were applied to the correct
> libraries but DIAGNOSE DISPLAY MEPL doesn't show the maintenance to be
> present ( and I have called in outside sets of eyes to verify that the
> libraries involved are, indeed, the same ones ) ;
> 4) the only thing that hasn't happened is an actual IPL of the lpar -
> the
> systems folks say that the various SET commands have it in the state
> needed
>
> Thanks,
> Bruce
>
>
>
>
> Mick P Graley
> <[login to unmask email]
> > To
> Sent by: IDUG [login to unmask email]
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> ORG> Subject
> Re: [DB2-L] z/os db2 v8 to v9
> conversion roadblock - what am I
> 01/22/2010 10:21 being so dense about ?
> AM
>
>
> Please respond to
> IDUG DB2-L
> <[login to unmask email]
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>
>
>
>
>
>
> Bruce,
>
> I've just looked at the APAR and there's also a HOLD action to re-
> assemble
> and link DSNHDECP - did you do that also?
>
> Mick.
>
>
> MICK GRALEY
> DB2 for z/OS DBA - GOS DBA Service & Capability Centre
> CSC
>
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> From: Phil Grainger <[login to unmask email]>
>
>
> To: [login to unmask email]
>
>
> Date: 22/01/2010 16:09
>
>
> Subject: Re: [DB2-L] z/os db2 v8 to v9 conversion roadblock - what
> am
> I being so dense about ?
>
>
>
>
>
>
> It's been a long time since I did it, but you can (under your v8
> subsystem,
> as v9 won't start) do a DIAGNOSE DISPLAY MEPL to make sure the ptfs were
> applied to the libraries that DB2 is using and not to somewhere else
>
> Phil Grainger
>
> Grainger Database Solutions Ltd
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: IDUG DB2-L [mailto:[login to unmask email] On Behalf Of Bruce
> Lightsey
> Sent: 22 January 2010 15:15
> To: [login to unmask email]
> Subject: [DB2-L] z/os db2 v8 to v9 conversion roadblock - what am I
> being
> so
> dense about ?
>
> I have DB2 v9 installed in my playground lpar and all works nicely there
> (
> z/os v1.9, etc ).
>
> Now I am trying to convert the first subsystem on one of the
> development
> lpars and when I get to "Migration step 17: Start DB2 Version 9.1" I
> continually get :
>
>
> DSNR001I -DB8T RESTART INITIATED
> DSNR045E -DB8T DSNRRPRC DB2 SUBSYSTEM IS STARTING 634
> AND
> IT WAS NOT STARTED IN A
> PREVIOUS RELEASE WITH THE FALLBACK SPE APPLIED.
> FALLBACK SPE APAR: PK11129
> NEW RELEASE LEVEL: 0000D450
> KNOWN LEVEL(S): 0000D3010000D3250000D35000000000000
> IEF450I DB8TMSTR DB8TMSTR - ABEND=S04F U0000 REASON=00000000
>
>
> My system programmer tells me that all of the "stuff" associated with
> PK11129 is applied and I've re-assembled/linked everything for the
> subsystem for both v8 and v9.
>
> We have an open log with IBM, but in the meantime - can anyone tell me
> what
> I may be forgetting to do or what IBM forgot to put into the migration
> guide ?
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Bruce Lightsey
> Mississippi Dept. of Information Technology Services
> 301 N. Lamar St., Suite 508
> Jackson, Ms 39201-1495
> (601) 359-2644 voice (601) 359-1394 fax
> www.its.ms.gov www.ms.gov.
> mailto:[login to unmask email]
>
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Re: z/os db2 v8 to v9 conversion roadblock - what am I being so dense about ?
(in response to James Campbell)
Agreed. If your code is in the link-list did you remember to refresh the
LLA?

Mick.





From: Phil Grainger <[login to unmask email]>

To: [login to unmask email]

Date: 22/01/2010 21:00

Subject: Re: [DB2-L] z/os db2 v8 to v9 conversion roadblock - what am I being so dense about ?






Well, if MEPL says it's not there then it isn't!

Not much help, but that is your problem

Phil Grainger

Grainger Database Solutions Ltd

-----Original Message-----
From: IDUG DB2-L [?mailto:[login to unmask email] On Behalf Of Bruce Lightsey
Sent: 22 January 2010 17:37
To: [login to unmask email]
Subject: Re: [DB2-L] z/os db2 v8 to v9 conversion roadblock - what am I
being so dense about ?

1) Yes - I have reassembled everything DSNHDECP included ;
2) Yes I have stopped the subsystem and restarted it several times ( and
attempted to restart under v9, too ) ;
3) SMP/E shows that the various modules were applied to the correct
libraries but DIAGNOSE DISPLAY MEPL doesn't show the maintenance to be
present ( and I have called in outside sets of eyes to verify that the
libraries involved are, indeed, the same ones ) ;
4) the only thing that hasn't happened is an actual IPL of the lpar - the
systems folks say that the various SET commands have it in the state needed

Thanks,
Bruce




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I've just looked at the APAR and there's also a HOLD action to re-assemble
and link DSNHDECP - did you do that also?

Mick.


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Date: 22/01/2010 16:09


Subject: Re: [DB2-L] z/os db2 v8 to v9 conversion roadblock - what am
I being so dense about ?






It's been a long time since I did it, but you can (under your v8 subsystem,
as v9 won't start) do a DIAGNOSE DISPLAY MEPL to make sure the ptfs were
applied to the libraries that DB2 is using and not to somewhere else

Phil Grainger

Grainger Database Solutions Ltd

-----Original Message-----
From: IDUG DB2-L [mailto:[login to unmask email] On Behalf Of Bruce Lightsey
Sent: 22 January 2010 15:15
To: [login to unmask email]
Subject: [DB2-L] z/os db2 v8 to v9 conversion roadblock - what am I being
so
dense about ?

I have DB2 v9 installed in my playground lpar and all works nicely there (
z/os v1.9, etc ).

Now I am trying to convert the first subsystem on one of the development
lpars and when I get to "Migration step 17: Start DB2 Version 9.1" I
continually get :


DSNR001I -DB8T RESTART INITIATED
DSNR045E -DB8T DSNRRPRC DB2 SUBSYSTEM IS STARTING 634
AND
IT WAS NOT STARTED IN A
PREVIOUS RELEASE WITH THE FALLBACK SPE APPLIED.
FALLBACK SPE APAR: PK11129
NEW RELEASE LEVEL: 0000D450
KNOWN LEVEL(S): 0000D3010000D3250000D35000000000000
IEF450I DB8TMSTR DB8TMSTR - ABEND=S04F U0000 REASON=00000000


My system programmer tells me that all of the "stuff" associated with
PK11129 is applied and I've re-assembled/linked everything for the
subsystem for both v8 and v9.

We have an open log with IBM, but in the meantime - can anyone tell me what
I may be forgetting to do or what IBM forgot to put into the migration
guide ?


Thanks,

Bruce Lightsey
Mississippi Dept. of Information Technology Services
301 N. Lamar St., Suite 508
Jackson, Ms 39201-1495
(601) 359-2644 voice (601) 359-1394 fax
www.its.ms.gov www.ms.gov..
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Mick P Graley

Re: z/os db2 v8 to v9 conversion roadblock - what am I being so dense about ?
(in response to Mick P Graley)
Yeah - it's been this way as far back as I can remember - ERLY code is
generally backward/forward compatible between "adjacent" versions of DB2,
to minimise the need for IPLs. I've run DB2 V7 on V8 ERLY code and DB2 V8
on V7 ERLY code with no problems. Not had to deal with V9 yet though!

Also, even though I don't think it's supported in the manuals, you can add
sub-system definitions and then use the MVS commands to dynamically update
the SSN details without an IPL.

As previously stated, I think the problem here is more likely to be related
to code roll-out procedures or old versions being referenced in the LLA, as
the DIAGNOSE DISPLAY MEPL is showing the wrong versions.

Good luck,

Mick.





From: James Campbell <[login to unmask email]>

To: [login to unmask email]

Date: 24/01/2010 01:53

Subject: Re: [DB2-L] z/os db2 v8 to v9 conversion roadblock - what am I being so dense about ?






If, however, you have UK44315 applied to your V8 early code, you can run
DB2 9 under V8 early code. This also enables you run some "future release
of DB2 for z/OS". Wonder what they mean by that :-)

There is also an earlier PTF that is specific for running 9 under V8 early
code, but I can't find it at the moment.

James Campbell

On 23 Jan 2010 at 12:02, Chris Hoelscher wrote:

>
> yes it is a new feature - but from what I understand - you MUST do an IPL
the first time to load V9
> ERLY code on an LPAR - then, quoteth the raven, NEVERMORE ....
>
> Chris Hoelscher
> Senior IDMS & DB2 Database Administrator
> Humana Inc
> 502-476-2538
> [login to unmask email]
>
> you only need to test the programs that you want to work correctly
>
>
>
>
>
> From:
> Barbara Koenen <[login to unmask email]>
>
> To:
> [login to unmask email]
>
> Date:
> 01/23/2010 12:49 AM.
>
> Subject:
> Re: [DB2-L] z/os db2 v8 to v9 conversion roadblock - what am I being so
dense about ?
>
> Sent by:
> IDUG DB2-L <[login to unmask email]>
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>
>
> I thought the commands to load ERLY code without an IPL were new with
> V9. It was the first time I saw them.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: IDUG DB2-L [mailto:[login to unmask email] On Behalf Of Bruce
> Lightsey
> Sent: Friday, January 22, 2010 11:37 AM
> To: [login to unmask email]
> Subject: Re: [DB2-L] z/os db2 v8 to v9 conversion roadblock - what am I
> being so dense about ?
>
> 1) Yes - I have reassembled everything DSNHDECP included ;
> 2) Yes I have stopped the subsystem and restarted it several times ( and
> attempted to restart under v9, too ) ;
> 3) SMP/E shows that the various modules were applied to the correct
> libraries but DIAGNOSE DISPLAY MEPL doesn't show the maintenance to be
> present ( and I have called in outside sets of eyes to verify that the
> libraries involved are, indeed, the same ones ) ;
> 4) the only thing that hasn't happened is an actual IPL of the lpar -
> the
> systems folks say that the various SET commands have it in the state
> needed
>
> Thanks,
> Bruce
>
>
>
>
> Mick P Graley
> <[login to unmask email]
> > To
> Sent by: IDUG [login to unmask email]
> DB2-L cc
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> ORG> Subject
> Re: [DB2-L] z/os db2 v8 to v9
> conversion roadblock - what am I
> 01/22/2010 10:21 being so dense about ?
> AM
>
>
> Please respond to
> IDUG DB2-L
> <[login to unmask email]
> 2-L.ORG>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Bruce,
>
> I've just looked at the APAR and there's also a HOLD action to re-
> assemble
> and link DSNHDECP - did you do that also?
>
> Mick.
>
>
> MICK GRALEY
> DB2 for z/OS DBA - GOS DBA Service & Capability Centre
> CSC
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> From: Phil Grainger <[login to unmask email]>
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> Date: 22/01/2010 16:09
>
>
> Subject: Re: [DB2-L] z/os db2 v8 to v9 conversion roadblock - what
> am
> I being so dense about ?
>
>
>
>
>
>
> It's been a long time since I did it, but you can (under your v8
> subsystem,
> as v9 won't start) do a DIAGNOSE DISPLAY MEPL to make sure the ptfs were
> applied to the libraries that DB2 is using and not to somewhere else
>
> Phil Grainger
>
> Grainger Database Solutions Ltd
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: IDUG DB2-L [mailto:[login to unmask email] On Behalf Of Bruce
> Lightsey
> Sent: 22 January 2010 15:15
> To: [login to unmask email]
> Subject: [DB2-L] z/os db2 v8 to v9 conversion roadblock - what am I
> being
> so
> dense about ?
>
> I have DB2 v9 installed in my playground lpar and all works nicely there
> (
> z/os v1.9, etc ).
>
> Now I am trying to convert the first subsystem on one of the
> development
> lpars and when I get to "Migration step 17: Start DB2 Version 9.1" I
> continually get :
>
>
> DSNR001I -DB8T RESTART INITIATED
> DSNR045E -DB8T DSNRRPRC DB2 SUBSYSTEM IS STARTING 634
> AND
> IT WAS NOT STARTED IN A
> PREVIOUS RELEASE WITH THE FALLBACK SPE APPLIED.
> FALLBACK SPE APAR: PK11129
> NEW RELEASE LEVEL: 0000D450
> KNOWN LEVEL(S): 0000D3010000D3250000D35000000000000
> IEF450I DB8TMSTR DB8TMSTR - ABEND=S04F U0000 REASON=00000000
>
>
> My system programmer tells me that all of the "stuff" associated with
> PK11129 is applied and I've re-assembled/linked everything for the
> subsystem for both v8 and v9.
>
> We have an open log with IBM, but in the meantime - can anyone tell me
> what
> I may be forgetting to do or what IBM forgot to put into the migration
> guide ?
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Bruce Lightsey
> Mississippi Dept. of Information Technology Services
> 301 N. Lamar St., Suite 508
> Jackson, Ms 39201-1495
> (601) 359-2644 voice (601) 359-1394 fax
> www.its.ms.gov www.ms.gov..
> mailto:[login to unmask email]
>
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>
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Isaac Yassin

Re: z/os db2 v8 to v9 conversion roadblock - what am I being so dense about ?
(in response to Mick P Graley)
I have both V7 and v9 on V9 early code w/o any problem.


Isaac Yassin

-----Original Message-----
From: IDUG DB2-L [mailto:[login to unmask email] On Behalf Of Mick P Graley
Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 7:32 PM
To: [login to unmask email]
Subject: Re: [DB2-L] z/os db2 v8 to v9 conversion roadblock - what am I being so dense about ?

Yeah - it's been this way as far back as I can remember - ERLY code is
generally backward/forward compatible between "adjacent" versions of DB2,
to minimise the need for IPLs. I've run DB2 V7 on V8 ERLY code and DB2 V8
on V7 ERLY code with no problems. Not had to deal with V9 yet though!

Also, even though I don't think it's supported in the manuals, you can add
sub-system definitions and then use the MVS commands to dynamically update
the SSN details without an IPL.

As previously stated, I think the problem here is more likely to be related
to code roll-out procedures or old versions being referenced in the LLA, as
the DIAGNOSE DISPLAY MEPL is showing the wrong versions.

Good luck,

Mick.





From: James Campbell <[login to unmask email]>

To: [login to unmask email]

Date: 24/01/2010 01:53

Subject: Re: [DB2-L] z/os db2 v8 to v9 conversion roadblock - what am I being so dense about ?






If, however, you have UK44315 applied to your V8 early code, you can run
DB2 9 under V8 early code. This also enables you run some "future release
of DB2 for z/OS". Wonder what they mean by that :-)

There is also an earlier PTF that is specific for running 9 under V8 early
code, but I can't find it at the moment.

James Campbell

On 23 Jan 2010 at 12:02, Chris Hoelscher wrote:

>
> yes it is a new feature - but from what I understand - you MUST do an IPL
the first time to load V9
> ERLY code on an LPAR - then, quoteth the raven, NEVERMORE ....
>
> Chris Hoelscher
> Senior IDMS & DB2 Database Administrator
> Humana Inc
> 502-476-2538
> [login to unmask email]
>
> you only need to test the programs that you want to work correctly
>
>
>
>
>
> From:
> Barbara Koenen <[login to unmask email]>
>
> To:
> [login to unmask email]
>
> Date:
> 01/23/2010 12:49 AM.
>
> Subject:
> Re: [DB2-L] z/os db2 v8 to v9 conversion roadblock - what am I being so
dense about ?
>
> Sent by:
> IDUG DB2-L <[login to unmask email]>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> I thought the commands to load ERLY code without an IPL were new with
> V9. It was the first time I saw them.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: IDUG DB2-L [mailto:[login to unmask email] On Behalf Of Bruce
> Lightsey
> Sent: Friday, January 22, 2010 11:37 AM
> To: [login to unmask email]
> Subject: Re: [DB2-L] z/os db2 v8 to v9 conversion roadblock - what am I
> being so dense about ?
>
> 1) Yes - I have reassembled everything DSNHDECP included ;
> 2) Yes I have stopped the subsystem and restarted it several times ( and
> attempted to restart under v9, too ) ;
> 3) SMP/E shows that the various modules were applied to the correct
> libraries but DIAGNOSE DISPLAY MEPL doesn't show the maintenance to be
> present ( and I have called in outside sets of eyes to verify that the
> libraries involved are, indeed, the same ones ) ;
> 4) the only thing that hasn't happened is an actual IPL of the lpar -
> the
> systems folks say that the various SET commands have it in the state
> needed
>
> Thanks,
> Bruce
>
>
>
>
> Mick P Graley
> <[login to unmask email]
> > To
> Sent by: IDUG [login to unmask email]
> DB2-L cc
> <[login to unmask email]
> ORG> Subject
> Re: [DB2-L] z/os db2 v8 to v9
> conversion roadblock - what am I
> 01/22/2010 10:21 being so dense about ?
> AM
>
>
> Please respond to
> IDUG DB2-L
> <[login to unmask email]
> 2-L.ORG>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Bruce,
>
> I've just looked at the APAR and there's also a HOLD action to re-
> assemble
> and link DSNHDECP - did you do that also?
>
> Mick.
>
>
> MICK GRALEY
> DB2 for z/OS DBA - GOS DBA Service & Capability Centre
> CSC
>
> GOS | office: +44 (0)1246 214871 | fax: +44 (0)1246 214503 |
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> From: Phil Grainger <[login to unmask email]>
>
>
> To: [login to unmask email]
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>
> Date: 22/01/2010 16:09
>
>
> Subject: Re: [DB2-L] z/os db2 v8 to v9 conversion roadblock - what
> am
> I being so dense about ?
>
>
>
>
>
>
> It's been a long time since I did it, but you can (under your v8
> subsystem,
> as v9 won't start) do a DIAGNOSE DISPLAY MEPL to make sure the ptfs were
> applied to the libraries that DB2 is using and not to somewhere else
>
> Phil Grainger
>
> Grainger Database Solutions Ltd
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: IDUG DB2-L [mailto:[login to unmask email] On Behalf Of Bruce
> Lightsey
> Sent: 22 January 2010 15:15
> To: [login to unmask email]
> Subject: [DB2-L] z/os db2 v8 to v9 conversion roadblock - what am I
> being
> so
> dense about ?
>
> I have DB2 v9 installed in my playground lpar and all works nicely there
> (
> z/os v1.9, etc ).
>
> Now I am trying to convert the first subsystem on one of the
> development
> lpars and when I get to "Migration step 17: Start DB2 Version 9.1" I
> continually get :
>
>
> DSNR001I -DB8T RESTART INITIATED
> DSNR045E -DB8T DSNRRPRC DB2 SUBSYSTEM IS STARTING 634
> AND
> IT WAS NOT STARTED IN A
> PREVIOUS RELEASE WITH THE FALLBACK SPE APPLIED.
> FALLBACK SPE APAR: PK11129
> NEW RELEASE LEVEL: 0000D450
> KNOWN LEVEL(S): 0000D3010000D3250000D35000000000000
> IEF450I DB8TMSTR DB8TMSTR - ABEND=S04F U0000 REASON=00000000
>
>
> My system programmer tells me that all of the "stuff" associated with
> PK11129 is applied and I've re-assembled/linked everything for the
> subsystem for both v8 and v9.
>
> We have an open log with IBM, but in the meantime - can anyone tell me
> what
> I may be forgetting to do or what IBM forgot to put into the migration
> guide ?
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Bruce Lightsey
> Mississippi Dept. of Information Technology Services
> 301 N. Lamar St., Suite 508
> Jackson, Ms 39201-1495
> (601) 359-2644 voice (601) 359-1394 fax
> www.its.ms.gov www.ms.gov..
> mailto:[login to unmask email]
>
> _____________________________________________________________________
>
> * IDUG North America * Tampa, Florida, * May 10-14 2010 *
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> Groups,
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> _____________________________________________________________________
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> Groups,
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> Community
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Re: z/os db2 v8 to v9 conversion roadblock - what am I being so dense about ?
(in response to Isaac Yassin)
If this is still a problem,

Does your site have any search order intercept products?
PDSMAN (as memory serves) can intercept calls to PDS's.

Does your started task JCL include a joblib or steplib?
If not, can you add one pointing to the correct library and see if it
comes up?

If the JCL is rolling up to linklist, is there a residual entry there?
Can you supply the contents of the linklist entries? /d prog,lnklst

Linda

-----Original Message-----
From: IDUG DB2-L [mailto:[login to unmask email] On Behalf Of Isaac Yassin
Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 1:28 PM
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Subject: Re: [DB2-L] z/os db2 v8 to v9 conversion roadblock - what am I
being so dense about ?

I have both V7 and v9 on V9 early code w/o any problem.


Isaac Yassin

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From: IDUG DB2-L [mailto:[login to unmask email] On Behalf Of Mick P Graley
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being so dense about ?

Yeah - it's been this way as far back as I can remember - ERLY code is
generally backward/forward compatible between "adjacent" versions of
DB2, to minimise the need for IPLs. I've run DB2 V7 on V8 ERLY code and
DB2 V8 on V7 ERLY code with no problems. Not had to deal with V9 yet
though!

Also, even though I don't think it's supported in the manuals, you can
add sub-system definitions and then use the MVS commands to dynamically
update the SSN details without an IPL.

As previously stated, I think the problem here is more likely to be
related to code roll-out procedures or old versions being referenced in
the LLA, as the DIAGNOSE DISPLAY MEPL is showing the wrong versions.

Good luck,

Mick.






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Date: 24/01/2010 01:53



Subject: Re: [DB2-L] z/os db2 v8 to v9 conversion roadblock - what
am I being so dense about ?







If, however, you have UK44315 applied to your V8 early code, you can run
DB2 9 under V8 early code. This also enables you run some "future
release of DB2 for z/OS". Wonder what they mean by that :-)

There is also an earlier PTF that is specific for running 9 under V8
early code, but I can't find it at the moment.

James Campbell

On 23 Jan 2010 at 12:02, Chris Hoelscher wrote:

>
> yes it is a new feature - but from what I understand - you MUST do an
> IPL
the first time to load V9
> ERLY code on an LPAR - then, quoteth the raven, NEVERMORE ....
>
> Chris Hoelscher
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> you only need to test the programs that you want to work correctly
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>
>
>
>
> From:
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> Date:
> 01/23/2010 12:49 AM.
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> Subject:
> Re: [DB2-L] z/os db2 v8 to v9 conversion roadblock - what am I being
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> I thought the commands to load ERLY code without an IPL were new with
> V9. It was the first time I saw them.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: IDUG DB2-L [mailto:[login to unmask email] On Behalf Of Bruce
> Lightsey
> Sent: Friday, January 22, 2010 11:37 AM
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> Subject: Re: [DB2-L] z/os db2 v8 to v9 conversion roadblock - what am
> I being so dense about ?
>
> 1) Yes - I have reassembled everything DSNHDECP included ;
> 2) Yes I have stopped the subsystem and restarted it several times (
> and attempted to restart under v9, too ) ;
> 3) SMP/E shows that the various modules were applied to the correct
> libraries but DIAGNOSE DISPLAY MEPL doesn't show the maintenance to be

> present ( and I have called in outside sets of eyes to verify that the

> libraries involved are, indeed, the same ones ) ;
> 4) the only thing that hasn't happened is an actual IPL of the lpar -
> the systems folks say that the various SET commands have it in the
> state needed
>
> Thanks,
> Bruce
>
>
>
>
> Mick P Graley
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> Bruce,
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> I've just looked at the APAR and there's also a HOLD action to re-
> assemble and link DSNHDECP - did you do that also?
>
> Mick.
>
>
> MICK GRALEY
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> Subject: Re: [DB2-L] z/os db2 v8 to v9 conversion roadblock - what
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>
>
>
>
>
>
> It's been a long time since I did it, but you can (under your v8
> subsystem,
> as v9 won't start) do a DIAGNOSE DISPLAY MEPL to make sure the ptfs
were
> applied to the libraries that DB2 is using and not to somewhere else
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> Phil Grainger
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: IDUG DB2-L [mailto:[login to unmask email] On Behalf Of Bruce
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> Sent: 22 January 2010 15:15
> To: [login to unmask email]
> Subject: [DB2-L] z/os db2 v8 to v9 conversion roadblock - what am I
> being
> so
> dense about ?
>
> I have DB2 v9 installed in my playground lpar and all works nicely
there
> (
> z/os v1.9, etc ).
>
> Now I am trying to convert the first subsystem on one of the
> development
> lpars and when I get to "Migration step 17: Start DB2 Version 9.1" I
> continually get :
>
>
> DSNR001I -DB8T RESTART INITIATED
> DSNR045E -DB8T DSNRRPRC DB2 SUBSYSTEM IS STARTING 634
> AND
> IT WAS NOT STARTED IN A
> PREVIOUS RELEASE WITH THE FALLBACK SPE APPLIED.
> FALLBACK SPE APAR: PK11129
> NEW RELEASE LEVEL: 0000D450
> KNOWN LEVEL(S): 0000D3010000D3250000D35000000000000
> IEF450I DB8TMSTR DB8TMSTR - ABEND=S04F U0000 REASON=00000000
>
>
> My system programmer tells me that all of the "stuff" associated with
> PK11129 is applied and I've re-assembled/linked everything for the
> subsystem for both v8 and v9.
>
> We have an open log with IBM, but in the meantime - can anyone tell me
> what
> I may be forgetting to do or what IBM forgot to put into the migration
> guide ?
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Bruce Lightsey
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