DB2 is dead - long live Db2

Phil Grainger

DB2 is dead - long live Db2
In case anyone hasn't yet noticed, Db2 has a new name (and no, that wasn't a typing error)

Take a look at https://www.ibm.com/analytics/us/en/technology/db2/

I waited until Friday to make sure you all took this news seriously

I really AM getting old now - I can remember the time when you couldn't even type "b" on a Db2-connected keyboard. There was only "B"

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Roy Boxwell

DB2 is dead - long live Db2
(in response to Phil Grainger)
It is So SaD tHaT tHeY hAve done THIS , I LIKED OS HALF...

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On 30 Jun 2017, at 21:02, Grainger, Phil <[login to unmask email]<mailto:[login to unmask email]>> wrote:

In case anyone hasn’t yet noticed, Db2 has a new name (and no, that wasn’t a typing error)

Take a look at https://www.ibm.com/analytics/us/en/technology/db2/

I waited until Friday to make sure you all took this news seriously

I really AM getting old now – I can remember the time when you couldn’t even type “b” on a Db2-connected keyboard. There was only “B”

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Phil Grainger

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Sam Baugh

DB2 is dead - long live Db2
(in response to Roy Boxwell)
Must be millennials. Starting to see lower case text get into
traditionally all uppercase chararcter columns, and their solution: where
lcase(column) = lcast(:hv). And now I have an out-sourced developer
wanting to use ROW_NUMBER() to "page" through data. But then, what do I
know. Glad it is Friday and off all next week.

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> It is So SaD tHaT tHeY hAve done THIS , I LIKED OS HALF...
>
> Roy Boxwell
> SOFTWARE ENGINEERING GmbH and SEGUS Inc.
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> On 30 Jun 2017, at 21:02, Grainger, Phil <[login to unmask email]> wrote:
>
> In case anyone hasn’t yet noticed, Db2 has a new name (and no, that
> wasn’t a typing error)
>
>
>
> Take a look at https://www.ibm.com/analytics/us/en/technology/db2/
>
>
>
> I waited until Friday to make sure you all took this news seriously
>
>
>
> I really AM getting old now – I can remember the time when you couldn’t
> even type “b” on a Db2-connected keyboard. There was only “B”
>
>
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>
>
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>

William Favero

DB2 is dead - long live Db2
(in response to Phil Grainger)
I read one of the original articles about this... for me, it makes no
sense and seems like it would be no more than a expense changing all the
documentation and marketing stuff... and through the platforms back into
confusion....

Unless of course, it is designed to mask which platform your on so our
old friend DB2 for z/OS can be slowly removed from existence... IBM is
not mainframe friendly anymore... it's all cloud today.....

Of course, this is all just my opinion and not the opinion of my
employer... Oh wait... I don't have any employer, I'm retired... LOL

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On 6/30/2017 2:02 PM, Grainger, Phil wrote:
>
> In case anyone hasn’t yet noticed, Db2 has a new name (and no, that
> wasn’t a typing error)
>
> Take a look at https://www.ibm.com/analytics/us/en/technology/db2/
> https://www.ibm.com/analytics/us/en/technology/db2
>
> I waited until Friday to make sure you all took this news seriously
>
> I really AM getting old now – I can remember the time when you
> couldn’t even type “b” on a Db2-connected keyboard. There was only “B”
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Nadir Doctor

DB2 is dead - long live Db2
(in response to William Favero)
My guess is that the next round will involve a rename of z/OS to Z/os along
with [i,p,z]-Series to [I,P,Z]-series.


Best Regards,
Nadir



On Fri, Jun 30, 2017 at 2:50 PM, Willie Favero <[login to unmask email]> wrote:

> I read one of the original articles about this... for me, it makes no
> sense and seems like it would be no more than a expense changing all the
> documentation and marketing stuff... and through the platforms back into
> confusion....
>
> Unless of course, it is designed to mask which platform your on so our old
> friend DB2 for z/OS can be slowly removed from existence... IBM is not
> mainframe friendly anymore... it's all cloud today.....
>
> Of course, this is all just my opinion and not the opinion of my
> employer... Oh wait... I don't have any employer, I'm retired... LOL
>
> --
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> On 6/30/2017 2:02 PM, Grainger, Phil wrote:
>
> In case anyone hasn’t yet noticed, Db2 has a new name (and no, that
> wasn’t a typing error)
>
>
>
> Take a look at https://www.ibm.com/analytics/us/en/technology/db2/
>
>
>
> I waited until Friday to make sure you all took this news seriously
>
>
>
> I really AM getting old now – I can remember the time when you couldn’t
> even type “b” on a Db2-connected keyboard. There was only “B”
>
>
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>
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Peter Backlund

DB2 is dead - long live Db2
(in response to Phil Grainger)
I have changed my email address
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Fortunately it is transparent;-)

Peter

On 2017-06-30 21:02, Grainger, Phil wrote:
In case anyone hasn’t  yet noticed, Db2 has a new name (and no, that wasn’t a typing error) Take a look at https://www.ibm.com/analytics/us/en/technology/db2/ I waited until Friday to make sure you all took this news seriously I really AM getting old now – I can remember the time when you couldn’t even type “b” on a Db2-connected keyboard. There was only “B” Phil GraingerLead Product [login to unmask email]  +44 (0)118 921 8000Mobile  +44(0)7808 643 479E2, Eskdale Road
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Philip III

DB2 is dead - long live Db2
(in response to Phil Grainger)
Nadir Doctor wrote:
>My guess is that the next round will involve a rename of z/OS to Z/os along
>with [i,p,z]-Series to [I,P,Z]-series.

Hah. Only of course the iSeries/pSeries/xSeries/zSeries names have been gone for 12 years (and had no hyphens, ever).

Since 2005:
z has been renamed 2½ times: to System z, then (the half!) to zEnterprise (but still System z—this was a confusing detour of IBM’s); nowadays it’s z Systems.
p is now Power Systems, after being System p for a while.
i is now IBM i, after being System i.
And x is gone, since IBM sold that division (but was also System x before it was sold).

Yeah, I’m being pedantic, but if we’re gonna complain about PC weenies not giving z respect, it doesn’t help if we don’t understand how it’s branded!

Philip Sevetson

DB2 is dead - long live Db2
(in response to Philip III)
**please note my email address change**
Wait, it’s not System z anymore? How do they keep anything straight?

Philip Sevetson
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From: Phil Smith [mailto:[login to unmask email]
Sent: Saturday, July 01, 2017 6:05 PM
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Nadir Doctor wrote:
>My guess is that the next round will involve a rename of z/OS to Z/os along
>with [i,p,z]-Series to [I,P,Z]-series.

Hah. Only of course the iSeries/pSeries/xSeries/zSeries names have been gone for 12 years (and had no hyphens, ever).

Since 2005:
z has been renamed 2½ times: to System z, then (the half!) to zEnterprise (but still System z—this was a confusing detour of IBM’s); nowadays it’s z Systems.
p is now Power Systems, after being System p for a while.
i is now IBM i, after being System i.
And x is gone, since IBM sold that division (but was also System x before it was sold).

Yeah, I’m being pedantic, but if we’re gonna complain about PC weenies not giving z respect, it doesn’t help if we don’t understand how it’s branded!

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Dom Chan

RE: DB2 is dead - long live Db2
(in response to Philip Sevetson)

Changes such as these would only make things a little more confusing. All thanks to the Millenials huh?

Philip III

DB2 is dead - long live Db2
(in response to Phil Grainger)
Dom Chan wrote:
>Changes such as these would only make things a little more confusing. All thanks to the Millenials huh?

I blame Marketing people, who think they have to justify their existence by changing logos, names, colors, etc. constantly.

Long ago and far away, we had a marketing department who kept changing the look—but weren’t smart enough to re-order things like business cards. At one point I went on a sales call with the VP of Sales and a sales rep. When we arrived at the customer, we handed him our cards: three cards, three different logos. Doh.

Phil Grainger

DB2 is dead - long live Db2
(in response to Philip III)
I just realised – maybe it was a compromise?

To the mainframe world it’ll always be “DB2”, but I can imagine hundreds of LUW specialists who are convinced it should always have been “db2” anyway ☺

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From: Phil Smith [mailto:[login to unmask email]
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Dom Chan wrote:
>Changes such as these would only make things a little more confusing. All thanks to the Millenials huh?

I blame Marketing people, who think they have to justify their existence by changing logos, names, colors, etc. constantly.

Long ago and far away, we had a marketing department who kept changing the look—but weren’t smart enough to re-order things like business cards. At one point I went on a sales call with the VP of Sales and a sales rep. When we arrived at the customer, we handed him our cards: three cards, three different logos. Doh.

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William Favero

DB2 is dead - long live Db2
(in response to Phil Grainger)
I read a blog post about this change a few weeks ago. In that post they
referenced an IBM announcement letter from June 22. I can no longer
find the blog post and I am unable to find a June 22 announcement that
discusses the name change.

Does anyone have links to either?

Thanks

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On 6/30/2017 2:02 PM, Grainger, Phil wrote:
>
> In case anyone hasn’t yet noticed, Db2 has a new name (and no, that
> wasn’t a typing error)
>
> Take a look at https://www.ibm.com/analytics/us/en/technology/db2/
> https://www.ibm.com/analytics/us/en/technology/db2
>
> I waited until Friday to make sure you all took this news seriously
>
> I really AM getting old now – I can remember the time when you
> couldn’t even type “b” on a Db2-connected keyboard. There was only “B”
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
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>
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Craig Mullins

DB2 is dead - long live Db2
(in response to William Favero)
Here is a link to Ember's blog post: http://db2commerce.com/2017/06/23/ibms-june-announcements-about-db2/

Regards,
Craig S. Mullins
Mullins Consulting, Inc.
www.mullinsconsulting.com

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> On Jul 5, 2017, at 1:16 PM, Willie Favero <[login to unmask email]> wrote:
>
> I read a blog post about this change a few weeks ago. In that post they referenced an IBM announcement letter from June 22. I can no longer find the blog post and I am unable to find a June 22 announcement that discusses the name change.
>
> Does anyone have links to either?
>
> Thanks
>
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>
>> On 6/30/2017 2:02 PM, Grainger, Phil wrote:
>> In case anyone hasn’t yet noticed, Db2 has a new name (and no, that wasn’t a typing error)
>>
>> Take a look at https://www.ibm.com/analytics/us/en/technology/db2/
>>
>> I waited until Friday to make sure you all took this news seriously
>>
>> I really AM getting old now – I can remember the time when you couldn’t even type “b” on a Db2-connected keyboard. There was only “B”
>>
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Dom Chan

RE: DB2 is dead - long live Db2
(in response to Philip III)

That's just sad, Philip III. Doing something just for the sake of doing it (changing the look) without focusing on the priorities (business cards). I just can't imagine the look on your customer's face when he saw those three different logos.

Though I also agree that Phil has a point, it may have been a compromise.

Dom Chan

RE: DB2 is dead - long live Db2
(in response to Craig Mullins)

I just re-checked the thread and was glad that someone had provided the link to that blog post, about the IBM announcement. Huge thanks, Craig! I actually couldn't help but laugh at the end of the blog. Ember Crooks' comment of changing DB2 to Db2 when she is "done mourning B" is priceless.

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Dom Chan[Organization Members] @ Jul 06, 2017 - 09:04 PM (America/Eastern)

Kirk Hampton

DB2 is dead - long live Db2
(in response to Phil Grainger)
I’ll never forget talking to a developer back in the late 80’s,
who did not want to consider porting an application to DB2 on the mainframe,
because they had developed it in dBase iii,
and they did not want to move to a back-level <grin>.

J. Kirk Hampton
DB2 z/OS Sysprog
HCL America
Frisco, Texas
817-228-6083


From: Grainger, Phil [mailto:[login to unmask email]
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I just realised – maybe it was a compromise?

To the mainframe world it’ll always be “DB2”, but I can imagine hundreds of LUW specialists who are convinced it should always have been “db2” anyway ☺

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Philip Nelson

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Unfortunately in our shop, they still are calling DB2 for LUW (as was)
"UDB", even although we were running a DB2 for z/OS that was "UDB" long
after all our AIX systems were beyond that.

That was yet another product rename that didn't last long.

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As I said to someone earlier, we could rename everything to a really cool
database - "IMS" ;-)

Phil

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> I’ll never forget talking to a developer back in the late 80’s,
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> who did not want to consider porting an application to DB2 on the
> mainframe,
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> because they had developed it in dBase iii,
>
> and they did not want to move to a back-level <grin>.
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> J. Kirk Hampton
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>
>
> I just realised – maybe it was a compromise?
>
>
>
> To the mainframe world it’ll always be “DB2”, but I can imagine hundreds
> of LUW specialists who are convinced it should always have been “db2”
> anyway J
>
>
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Surely you mean Ims (the INFORMATION is most important)

Isn't it Friday yet :(

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Larry Jardine

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That reminds me of the old days when IT departments were often called Management Information Systems (MIS). A former company I worked for in the 1980s wanted to print a monthly newsletter for their employees and I had suggested name for it which they used for 1 issue:

MIS Information



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Isn't it Friday yet :(

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Jorg Lueke

RE: DB2 is dead - long live Db2
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I heard 12 will be the last numbered release as well and going forward IBM is moving to continuous maintenance

Roy Boxwell

DB2 is dead - long live Db2
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I will bet you a Pizza that 13 will indeed come along sometime...
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I heard 12 will be the last numbered release as well and going forward IBM is moving to continuous maintenance

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George Toolan, Jr.

DB2 is dead - long live Db2
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There will be another release at some point, but I will bet more than a Pizza that it will not be called 13

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David Baldon

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IBM has said that there will be new releases at some point but not like we’re accustomed to. The reasons for a new release are more hardware oriented than feature oriented. e.g. new instructions are added that will yield a significant performance improvement, they would have to re-assemble the whole product and that would end up being a new release. I don’t expect many new releases unless the whole CD approach doesn’t work out as anticipated.

...David

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I heard 12 will be the last numbered release as well and going forward IBM is moving to continuous maintenance

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Steen Rasmussen

DB2 is dead - long live Db2
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Jorg – not necessarily true that DB2 12 is the last number. Per Jeff Josten, Chris Crone and others, there might be a next number when so required – for example when the entire codebase has to be recompiled.

Steen

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I heard 12 will be the last numbered release as well and going forward IBM is moving to continuous maintenance

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Dom Chan

RE: DB2 is dead - long live Db2
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How long would IBM's "continuous maintenance" last though?

Steen Rasmussen

DB2 is dead - long live Db2
(in response to Dom Chan)
I don’t think anyone has an answer – until no more new features can be added and users have no more requests for improvements ☺

Steen

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How long would IBM's "continuous maintenance" last though?

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Mike Elleby, III

[EXTERNAL MAIL]: DB2 is dead - long live Db2
(in response to Steen Rasmussen)
Good morning-

It’s been awhile since I last posted a question, but wanted to get some thoughts/input.. I have some data being written to a DB2 database by an external application that has no scripts/sql/etc. to remove data that is for example, older than 30 days, or 6 months.. My first mind is to create a script to execute some sql to delete records based on timestamp, and then let runstats/reorg run nightly/bi-weekly, etc. to remove completely..

I’m a little rusty here, so any thoughts?

Thanx in advance..


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RE: [EXTERNAL MAIL]: DB2 is dead - long live Db2
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REORG with DISCARD and inline stats does all 3 in 1 parse of the data.

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William Favero

DB2 is dead - long live Db2
(in response to Phil Grainger)
When I read about the name change in Ember's blog, I was surprised I had
not seen the announcement letter she referred to. I have no idea what
happened in June, however, today (July 18) IBM did put out an
announcement in the US about the name change. The announcement list
all of the original product names along with what they have been changed
to.

If you would like to check it out, the US announcement letter (IBM
United States Software Announcement 217-363) can be found at
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Philip III

DB2 is dead - long live Db2
(in response to Phil Grainger)
I did some analysis, because, well, I did. There are two and a half global changes:

1) DB2 to Db2 (we knew that)

2) Removing “for Linux™, Unix, and Windows™” from product names

3) and the half: the ™ and ® are missing from the new names; I’m guessing they’re pending, but whatever

Besides those, here are the other, specific changes:

Old: IBM DB2 on Cloud
New: IBM Db2 Hosted

Old: IBM dashDB Enterprise for Transactions SaaS
New: IBM Db2 on Cloud

Old: IBM dashDB for Analytics
New: IBM Db2 Warehouse on Cloud

Old: dashDB Local
New: Db2 Warehouse

Now you know. ☺ Other than the “DB2/Db2 on Cloud”, they’re not that confusing.

…phsiii

Dom Chan

RE: DB2 is dead - long live Db2
(in response to Steen Rasmussen)

Hmm, that's a good point, Steen. I guess we would just have to wait and see until this whole maintenance ends. Hopefully, it won't take too long.

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In Reply to Steen Rasmussen:

I don’t think anyone has an answer – until no more new features can be added and users have no more requests for improvements ☺

Steen

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How long would IBM's "continuous maintenance" last though?

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Ruediger Kurtz

AW: DB2 is dead - long live Db2
(in response to Steen Rasmussen)
Hi all,

chiming in very late, but still …

in Brussels I learnt that there may eventually be a next version of Db2, even just to force users to get pretty recent with maintenance. It might get complicated to support all the valid combinations of all different levels.
This made sense to me, but there was no talk of a Db2 13 (or DB2 13, for what it’s worth).
Some folks are superstitious – I’m not, especially not on Mondays ☺

Best regards

Rüdiger


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Jorg – not necessarily true that DB2 12 is the last number. Per Jeff Josten, Chris Crone and others, there might be a next number when so required – for example when the entire codebase has to be recompiled.

Steen

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