IDUG EMEA 2018 : Call for Presentations Ends Soon

Philip Nelson

IDUG EMEA 2018 : Call for Presentations Ends Soon
For all prospective speaker for the IDUG EMEA 2018 Conference in Malta
November 4 - 8 2018, please note that the Call for Presentations is due to
close in just over a week (March 19th 2018).

Note that there are no rollovers from other IDUG conferences - if you want
to be at EMEA then you have to submit to EMEA (it has been like this for
about 5 years, but some people still think there are rollovers).

So please submit your abstracts now -

https://www.idug.org/p/cm/ld/fid=1374

As well as traditional DBA / System topics, we are particularly keen to
hear from prospective speaker on Application Development topics. Also on
new technologies around the Db2 ecosystem.

In my "day job" I'm a consultant to our developer community, and I've
learnt there is a difference between what developers want to hear with
regard to Db2 and what DBAs think developers want to hear. The latter
category tends to be focused on explain plans, indexing and maybe some SQL
features. I'd love to hear what you have to say to developers !!! Or
maybe you are a developer yourself - then we want to hear from you.

Never spoken at a conference before? In the last two years we have helped
a number of first time speakers through the process. Some of these made
it into the Top 5 user speaker list. Many more are keen to repeat the
process. Will you join them?

Phil

Tony Andrews

IDUG EMEA 2018 : Call for Presentations Ends Soon
(in response to Philip Nelson)
Is there a way to see what we might have submitted already?

Tony

From: Philip Nelson [mailto:[login to unmask email]
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Subject: [DB2-L] - IDUG EMEA 2018 : Call for Presentations Ends Soon

For all prospective speaker for the IDUG EMEA 2018 Conference in Malta November 4 - 8 2018, please note that the Call for Presentations is due to close in just over a week (March 19th 2018).

Note that there are no rollovers from other IDUG conferences - if you want to be at EMEA then you have to submit to EMEA (it has been like this for about 5 years, but some people still think there are rollovers).

So please submit your abstracts now -

https://www.idug.org/p/cm/ld/fid=1374

As well as traditional DBA / System topics, we are particularly keen to hear from prospective speaker on Application Development topics. Also on new technologies around the Db2 ecosystem.

In my "day job" I'm a consultant to our developer community, and I've learnt there is a difference between what developers want to hear with regard to Db2 and what DBAs think developers want to hear. The latter category tends to be focused on explain plans, indexing and maybe some SQL features. I'd love to hear what you have to say to developers !!! Or maybe you are a developer yourself - then we want to hear from you.

Never spoken at a conference before? In the last two years we have helped a number of first time speakers through the process. Some of these made it into the Top 5 user speaker list. Many more are keen to repeat the process. Will you join them?

Phil


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William Shipley

IDUG EMEA 2018 : Call for Presentations Ends Soon
(in response to Tony Andrews)
Tony, you can see what you have submitted by viewing your profile on idug.org.
Hover over “My Options” on the top right of the page, then choose “My Profile”. On the right side of the page you will see a list of Options. The last one is “My Presentations, you click on that and you will see the list of presentations you have submitted grouped by conference.

Hopr that helps,
Bill Shipley
Vanguard

From: Tony Andrews [mailto:[login to unmask email]
Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2018 2:49 PM
To: [login to unmask email]
Subject: [External] [DB2-L] - RE: IDUG EMEA 2018 : Call for Presentations Ends Soon

Is there a way to see what we might have submitted already?

Tony

From: Philip Nelson [mailto:[login to unmask email]
Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2018 2:40 PM
To: [login to unmask email]<mailto:[login to unmask email]>
Subject: [DB2-L] - IDUG EMEA 2018 : Call for Presentations Ends Soon

For all prospective speaker for the IDUG EMEA 2018 Conference in Malta November 4 - 8 2018, please note that the Call for Presentations is due to close in just over a week (March 19th 2018).

Note that there are no rollovers from other IDUG conferences - if you want to be at EMEA then you have to submit to EMEA (it has been like this for about 5 years, but some people still think there are rollovers).

So please submit your abstracts now -

https://www.idug.org/p/cm/ld/fid=1374 https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.idug.org_p_cm_ld_fid-3D1374&d=DwMCaQ&c=MrQrGL4Bt1iC3sN_evS3dQ&r=jnjRf1TFXwfwtMxHxUkLCqmAPP8maIzLuZUbcAmfLsU&m=NQZQsD02UusEiVLb6fwD5-pdvn34-tsHZLKUIvOkmX4&s=5yjt_cnENTBjaR27umucDTzJDVbLTm9rWF893g7i7Sg&e=

As well as traditional DBA / System topics, we are particularly keen to hear from prospective speaker on Application Development topics. Also on new technologies around the Db2 ecosystem.

In my "day job" I'm a consultant to our developer community, and I've learnt there is a difference between what developers want to hear with regard to Db2 and what DBAs think developers want to hear. The latter category tends to be focused on explain plans, indexing and maybe some SQL features. I'd love to hear what you have to say to developers !!! Or maybe you are a developer yourself - then we want to hear from you.

Never spoken at a conference before? In the last two years we have helped a number of first time speakers through the process. Some of these made it into the Top 5 user speaker list. Many more are keen to repeat the process. Will you join them?

Phil


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Michael Hannan

RE: IDUG EMEA 2018 : Call for Presentations Ends Soon
(in response to Philip Nelson)

In Reply to Philip Nelson:

In my "day job" I'm a consultant to our developer community, and I've
learnt there is a difference between what developers want to hear with
regard to Db2 and what DBAs think developers want to hear. The latter
category tends to be focused on explain plans, indexing and maybe some SQL
features. I'd love to hear what you have to say to developers !!! Or
maybe you are a developer yourself - then we want to hear from you.

Phil,

You seem to suggest certain things are boring to many. Would like to hear a positive comment about what is not so boring. What do these Developers want to hear? Would it be more helpful to give some examples, or do Developers only have negative reaction to presentations they have attended.

I wonder if the most important messages to get, will be really "entertaining" to the audience.

While I am not a DBA, I am an SQL Performance bigot, so I am very interested in those things, you suggest the Developers do not want to hear. I would have thought they might be interested in how to use SQL sensibly and well. Anything from the Optimizer Team would be top priority to me, but I understand well not to others. Many applications are designed and built with little performance thought.

I do recall my former DUG committee days when a various committee members hated the mention of the word Performance. They wanted to build all sorts of sexy impractical Client Server systems with incredibly bad response time in those days before Stored Procedures, or how to get to Data Sharing for customers that did not really need it, etc. I found it hard to understand why.

So what sort of things do you believe the Developers want to hear about?  How to process XML in your SQL? (Just an example). How to verify your the results from standard regression testing scripts? What things are sexy? Do Developers want fancy new things that are impractical from a performance standpoint? O.K.I phrased that badly, but indicates I almost always have a performance hat on, when dealing with high volume systems. Do they want tools that make life easier? I don't know what they might want.

Might be helpful to list some ideas that are outside the standard old SQL Capabilities and Performance topics. Lets hope for practical topics that will be useful for building great Db2 systems, rather than bad performance solutions looking for a problem.

I hope that people are focussed on how to get the best out of DB2, and not do very impractical things with it.

Michael Hannan,
DB2 Application Performance Specialist
CPT Global Ltd 

Philip Nelson

IDUG EMEA 2018 : Call for Presentations Ends Soon
(in response to Michael Hannan)
Michael,

Thanks for your note. I'm glad I've prompted a debate of sorts.

I have found that you have to draw developers into "our world" by showing
them the benefits of what we are suggesting.

This often starts with showing them some SQL functionality that saves them
effort. Temporal SQL is a great example of this. Once you get them
"hooked" then they tend to keep coming back.

But there is a stage before you even get a chance to introduce "cool SQL"
to them. They often need help with connectivity, drivers, configuration
and using Db2 with their favourite programming language. I've found very
few DBAs who know anything about these topics. Worse than that, they
actually don't care - "that's client side" is something I've heard them say
too often. But if you can be helpful in this space, then you are starting
to build a relationship and it can quickly move on to SQL and eventually
you'll get to explains and performance.

I've had exactly this experience recently with a bunch of eCommerce
developers. They are node.js people (contractors) and they were
experiencing Db2 (both LUW and z/OS) for the first time. I took the time
to learn a bit about node.js and how to install and configure the Db2
adapters. One thing I discovered was that the automatic install using npm
brings in a pretty old version of the IBM Data Server client and they were
hitting an issue because of this. I was able to show them how to use the
latest client. This led to them asking us to take a look at some of
their SQL, which then allowed us to show some SQL features that would help
them and introduced the topic of SQL coding for performance. We even got
to talk about the different locking models on z/OS and LUW. It is, I
hope, the start of a partnership. I'm certainly never going to tell them
how to code node.js, but we can both contribute to the overall whole.

At IDUG we have never been very good at providing these topics that would
make developers want to come to IDUG in the first place. In the past I've
tried to do these topics - I've given sessions on using DB2 with Perl, Ruby
on Rails and node.js. I'm due to give a session on DB2 clients at IDUG
NA. Once the developers get to IDUG I'm sure there will be plenty to
interest them, but getting them through the doors in the first place is the
challenge.

Even the way we present the topic is important. Again I think that it is
key to highlight that the information will make a developers life easier.
I'm glad to see some of the recent submissions I've seen over the last
week or so have gone out of their way to make the titles sound App Dev
relevant. Thanks to everyone for their efforts in this respect.

On 13 March 2018 at 10:55, Michael Hannan <[login to unmask email]> wrote:

> In Reply to Philip Nelson:
>
> In my "day job" I'm a consultant to our developer community, and I've
> learnt there is a difference between what developers want to hear with
> regard to Db2 and what DBAs think developers want to hear. The latter
> category tends to be focused on explain plans, indexing and maybe some SQL
> features. I'd love to hear what you have to say to developers !!! Or
> maybe you are a developer yourself - then we want to hear from you.
>
> Phil,
>
> You seem to suggest certain things are boring to many. Would like to hear
> a positive comment about what is not so boring. What do these Developers
> want to hear? Would it be more helpful to give some examples, or do
> Developers only have negative reaction to presentations they have attended.
>
> I wonder if the most important messages to get, will be really
> "entertaining" to the audience.
>
> While I am not a DBA, I am an SQL Performance bigot, so I am very
> interested in those things, you suggest the Developers do not want to hear.
> I would have thought they might be interested in how to use SQL sensibly
> and well. Anything from the Optimizer Team would be top priority to me, but
> I understand well not to others. Many applications are designed and built
> with little performance thought.
>
> I do recall my former DUG committee days when a various committee members
> hated the mention of the word Performance. They wanted to build all sorts
> of sexy impractical Client Server systems with incredibly bad response time
> in those days before Stored Procedures, or how to get to Data Sharing for
> customers that did not really need it, etc. I found it hard to understand
> why.
>
> So what sort of things do you believe the Developers want to hear about?
> How to process XML in your SQL? (Just an example). How to verify your the
> results from standard regression testing scripts? What things are sexy? Do
> Developers want fancy new things that are impractical from a performance
> standpoint? O.K.I phrased that badly, but indicates I almost always have a
> performance hat on, when dealing with high volume systems. Do they want
> tools that make life easier? I don't know what they might want.
>
> Might be helpful to list some ideas that are outside the standard old SQL
> Capabilities and Performance topics. Lets hope for practical topics that
> will be useful for building great Db2 systems, rather than bad performance
> solutions looking for a problem.
>
> I hope that people are focussed on how to get the best out of DB2, and not
> do very impractical things with it.
>
> Michael Hannan,
> DB2 Application Performance Specialist
> CPT Global Ltd
>
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>